The devastating Camp Fire in the national forests in California has brought new attention to climate change and the management of national forests. Midwest forest managers say they have been able to keep fires under control, and will continue to do so even as the region gets warmer.

Firefighters battling the massive Thomas Fire northwest of Los Angeles were working against another round of high winds to prevent its spread to homes in Santa Barbara and Montecito.

The Thomas Fire in Southern California has raged for nearly two weeks, and on Saturday new evacuation orders were issued in Santa Barbara County as a local zoo made preparations to move some of its animals out of the danger zone.

Guest: Stephen Pyne.

So far this year, more than four and a half million acres of land have been affected by large fires. This morning on Focus we're joined by Professor Stephen Pyne to talk about the ways nature and human activity both contribute to the increased risk of large, intense fires, as well as some of the controversy surrounding the prevention and fighting of wildfires.