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four score and seven years ago these words open President Abraham Lincoln speech

consecration of the National Cemetery in Gettysburg Pennsylvania

150 years ago tomorrow Gettysburg Address is Lincoln’s most famous

famous speech but it might be a little overrated so says University of Illinois

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Illinois history professor Bruce Levine guest today on Fox

you pay more attention to the actual Battle of Gettysburg office

describe does the turning point of the Civil War MJ meadows and Bruce Levine with a skull

discuss Gettysburg speech and the battle today on Fox

program continues after the news

welcome to focus mg Meadows tomorrow marks the 150th anniversary

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reverse rid of Abraham Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address Abraham Lincoln Presidential

Central Library and Museum in Springfield is marking the event with a vigil it begins

1067 the ceiling a climax is it midnight with a picture of Lincoln portrait

portrayed by a factor for Klein reading the address the Gettysburg

what is burg address maybe Abraham Lincoln’s most famous speech what is it is most important

importing one I guess today has his own thoughts on the matter as well as on the A Team

1863 Battle of Gettysburg that inspired the speech

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Bruce Levine is the JT rental distinguished professor of history of the University of Illinois

Illinois the author of several books in the Civil War most recently the Fall of the House

the house of Dixie the Civil War and the social revolution the transform the south Public

Random House fence Lavigne welcome to focus thank you Jim

thank you for being with us in the walking your questions also during the program

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play a reading of the Gettysburg Address its its short enough that we can comfortably

Comfortably do that during the program but I love but a professor Lavigne I wanted to ask you jizz

you just a test just for starters what do you think of the Gettysburg Address concert

considering how famous is a doesn’t do it justice of to the occasion

casein in the themes of a Lincoln’s presidency  what does I think

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Think and it doesn’t I think this is an address on

Pacific an important aspect of the war but doesn’t answer

emphasize everything that’s important about the war it’s a beautiful dress

it’s quite poetic social quite sure which is a distinct advantage

but it talks primarily about this

how to feed of saving the republican form of government from those

who are trying in this case in Lincoln do to destroy it

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and that is indeed the cause of least the

immediate cause of the war and say a very important

16 republican government with in short supply in the transatlantic world

when was indeed the written by

secession and war but it is not I believe fundamentally a

a speech about emancipation in the destruction of slavery fat

fat is the focus of Lincoln’s second inaugural address and I see a greater

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greater speech Gettysburg Address what what do you think this speech is such a

touch a well remembered what is brevity part of the reason I do think brevity is part of the

and literally strike it brief

if they said a moment ago is very poetic

it’s also a speech that appeals politically speaking to

to a probably a larger audience at the time I’ve been

when did the Second Inaugural because the larger number of northerners

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where on board for the Union war effort in the service of sound

salvage in the Union then we’re the Attic about Obama

polishing slavery and I think therefore that

is that the appeal of the Gettysburg Address in focusing on the meatus

protect republican government appealing to that large

have greater staying power  what lets go ahead and

listen to the Gettysburg Address is a reading by the director of our own Illinois

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Illinois radio to service a teen guy can’t and I actually Klacid in a little

a little shorter even Lincoln’s reading the president reading for a large crowd to go for two

Vertu minutes Dinuba shorter than that four score and seven years ago our fathers

our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation conceived in Liberty and dedicated to the proposition

to the proposition that all men are created equal now we are engaged in a great civil war

Civil War testing whether that nation or any nation so conceived in so dedicated

can long endure we are met on a great battlefield is at war we’ve come to dedicate a Porsche

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a portion of that field is the final resting place for those who hear gave their lives

what’s the destination might live is all together fitting improper that we should do this

banana larger sense we cannot dedicate we cannot consecrate

we cannot hallow this ground the brave men living and dead who struggled

struggle deer have consecrated far above our poor power to add or detract

the world will little note nor long remember what we say here but it can never forget

forget what they did here is for us the living rather be dedicated here

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here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have this far so no bleed vans

advance is ready for us to be here dedicated to the great ass creaming before

Forest from these honor dead we take increased devotion to that

that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion that we here highly

highly resolve the dead shall not have died in vain that this nation

under God shall have a new birth of freedom and that government of the people

by the people for the people shall not perish from the earth

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that is the Gettysburg Address read there by Dean Duncan of our own

Illinois radio readers service and it is really a very simple

simple piece of a of a simple speech tracing from the birth of

birth of the country to the Civil War and then calling on the audience

audience gathered here today we the living to continue the work that the soul

the soldiers did battle to a carry on on a note

Kim K ring on carry on the Union in the great experiment started with the declaration of

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ration of Independence but what you are saying is missing there is the issue for men

emancipation  Sears of phrase that is off inside

cited that it is off in class

claim jumpers to say the words

nation under God shall have a new birth of freedom and the number

the number of this location of Emancipation Proclamation

slavery if that was

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engine uses a freezing

ice cream

preservation

Asian consecrated in Liberty and found it on the ice

sure masturbation

for the rest of those principles but I don’t think

that was what Lincoln

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public no I’ve heard are you ready

what are cute I think it was my Ronald C whitening is Lincoln biography that in

in recalling at the beginning of the speech the all men are created equal passage

from the Declaration of Independence Lincoln was actually choose

choosing a line that was less popular than now in terms of lions called from the deck

declaration and one that implied an argument for and Megaman sepation maybe

baby to the degree that I could qualify as a as a is a political dog whistles at the time

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time for all those who favored emancipation  well as I say

is it possible

all men are created equal that is what does worth mean to Lincoln and asses with those words

they did not mean

Quality Inn today equality in the sense

free of sleep but me to Lincoln

is party for advocating for equality

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genuinely

equal rights Lincoln facts

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so um I think

does worth signify 2008

with slavery necessarily a dog whistle for Wells

how to crack worth

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clear discussing

emancipation itself with perfectly capable of doing bad as he did

was was Lincoln when did Lincoln

Lincoln is there a pattern of Lincoln being slow are working gradually towards

being more open 4th write about arguing for emancipation

I can I can see some picture there that Lincoln was trying to reach with asthma

is broad Annette as possible perhaps even trying to us

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do I reach reach the hearts of Southerners who did not

who did not agree with succession  well I think it’s true

true that looking for a bra it’s also true

Lincoln further and further direction

the time deliver the Gettysburg Address ready

David proclamation of commitment

55 at point is not doubt

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simply might you weather in this species particularly referring to

Lincoln’s election cause section

however I sleep because his party was the case

the proposition that slavery what not to expand any further into the law

large Federal Territory the more of because Lincoln NE

hope this was the first step

steps to a seat slavery extinguisher

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throughout the country of slavery is certainly pop off

Lincoln’s battle party takes awhile for them

Decatur worth

Lincoln was not ready very explicit terms

to claim that all those who died at Gettysburg has died

service emancipation

1865 national support for masturbation

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grown  practically

and I think he felt much for ground dedicating second

but not in 1863 I think

1863 ask to give a few remarks

Marques de que ting a cemetery for those who have fallen

battle Lincoln was primarily concerned for remind

his listeners that the lowest common denominator causes

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was the preservation of the Democratic Republic

note Lincoln’s address at the Gettysburg Sarah cemetery at concert

consecration wasn’t even the main speech Indiana

well is it was Edward Everett to Anderson was was really

really quite well known as a beat maker at the time of the main address

yes he was a classic 19th century Florida and politician

fish in series of political offices president

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Harvard someone with politics different from Lincoln by the way

our very Florida

address and also a rabbit forgettable it is available

on the internet so I enable my life Kem did a little more than I read it but it does

just take a classic form including of an opening not to antiquity buy a

comparing of the soldiers who died at Gettysburg to the soldiers

who died at the Battle of Marathon and we’re also Barry data set up at a cemetery

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Jerry elected at the battlefield but um

it also does not talk about emancipation barely talks

songs about slavery besides outlining the battle in the events leading

leading up to the battle it seems to wall painting of the Confederacy as

as it wants to make sure that the Confederacy is seen is the offensive force

the attackers in this case and not certainly not the other

anoxia aggrieved party which was which was leaving morn sorrow than anger

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buy the butter force which had actually according to Everett

Everett speech conspired Harley stunts are the stock real hard about

about for several years before hand of trying to take over the wall of the

the Washington DC themselves differences

why someone would likely to emphasize this affect

whatever it was someone who held from morphine

conservative women of the Union cause acne

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1867 the vice presidential nominees ticket cost

the constitutional Union

Republicans really good for virtually nothing except

price national unity at any price

good for sleep because of compromises the subject of slavery

Zach by 1860 Lincoln

order to pay support

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Port Edward Everett is a 6yr 1860

last minute vacations

okay it’s a I guess it’s interesting footnote at Lincoln ever

beverages far is a speech is were concerned seem to be assertive mutual admiration

Mason society those records of notes between the two of them admiring each other speeches

hope made

remember his speech on that for happy wheels

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contributions to know

is worth well let’s take a call now and this is Paul

Paul from Champaign County online won the morning urine focus high

I told the screen write a question that doesn’t really on the plaza address but

but I do have something on that and I’m never the Campos

composer hear that to the piece called LGA which was Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address

address it was one of the seven card pieces actually

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Memorial Concert for him this week for happy but on the

just off what I understood from his presentation of it was that

he was revolted by the water of the Civil War which was

which was the first mechanized war when on a grade scale

huge massive casualties and on

and also included the server reticle

cool idea that the whole idea that you consecrate

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soil with blood which is one of the images in the Gettysburg Address

so it’s quite what the word is radical preps

apps so I don’t know if you want to come in on that but what I have

about about was the Lincoln slave

inflate use on colonization I talk to about 1900

little piece from you on YouTube something on we’re you certify

reinforces idea that um it was president of the union

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Union with paramount in any thoughts about the

citizen hood in the oven actual statuses

how to save after conflate afternoon was was

late breaking different then I have it on again

radical book of forced into glory by M Bennett

and from seeing him at a lake and a gathering in

in the Old State House once where’s the baiting people they bring up the fact that

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Lincoln in very early days Cave of

serve non authorized money to the Negro removal office

office which was your service based at least it or Kylie on the end

the Indian Removal Act in with the idea that the first the office that was going to continue

attempts at the sending  African stew

never known Africa quote unquote back to Africa

are anywhere that would take them off in the Caribbean etcetera etcetera know that’s kinda long winded

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when did but I’ve been cracker pie with this for for some time and now

will professor Lavigne I’m wondering if you can can you dress that is too as to how much

how much weight do we know that I love the the neighbourhood Lincoln gave the idea

idea of love of send offs of sending off of

sending African Americans out of the US if I hurt

hurts to questions here colonization in one on slaughter

and whether it was to say that

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questions starting with colonization it should be late clear for support

colonization free black people

country was something that Lincoln had inherited from the man

Henry Clay

Lincoln in 1860 61 like play before he did not

black wife could live in harmony

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44 they advocate what they call colonization

what should be the size of a bad as that look

looks 21st century was always understood as voluntary

immigration compulsory

is worse Lincoln was simply trying to persuade

free blacks to emigrate for their own sake

Lincoln faces calling for colonization

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after the Emancipation Proclamation

that allows the government to make a financial

killer colonization experiment

the Caribbean 5 to be part of his public

public program and this is part of Lincoln

Lincoln’s political party

that’s my opinion is largely because Lincoln

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find the active assistance

former slaves in order to win the war by the end of the war

40 most 200000 black men who have served

what’s that without

could not be preserved work with Nazis

well you can very well how to spawn

551 as you’re trying to usher these people at the door

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so I say 666 to be part of what ministrations

public question on weather

about the creation of the soil

oil by blood the war horse

shorts and

ministration

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slavery and therefore giving slavery virtual

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responding to an arm

with arms suppression  icing

I think that that was the classics

and that was the War Z

extinguish slavery in the United States

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something that happens for a case

quite true life s*** soldiers at Gettysburg

consecrated best in life

types of Iraq and Afghanistan war in general is coming on a cloud

cloud

retrospectively impose upon a fairy

different for different era feelings we have

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forced okay and I want to Saint Paul

Paul for the call by the way the piece of music setting mentioned Els GA

Wikipedia I can tell you it was composed by Salvatore Giovanni

Martorano who I talked for many years at the U of I and that’s considered his best

is best known a composition that became associated with the antiwar move

this is focusing wyll take a short break here and continue talking

talking about the Gettysburg Address in the Battle of Gettysburg with Professor Bruce Levine

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amber back on focus on wyll

are subject is the Gettysburg Address in the Battle of Gettysburg tomorrow is the one

is the 150th anniversary of Abraham Lincoln’s delivery of the Gettysburg

address add a ceremony consecrating a cemetery are for the soldiers

soldiers killed at the Battle of Gettysburg welcome your questions incommons 1 800 22

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wyll email acid will dash talk at Illinois

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a.edu and I as as we were noting a professor Levine

living the the the the Gettysburg Address does

commemorate of those who died at the Battle of Gettysburg and and really I think

YouTube the Battle of Gettysburg was probably more important than the speech

given after it by the way

Charles Sumner Express

510 speech

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is that ideas are always more important

which that were true I don’t think it is

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okay um  can we can we a

can we do of a quick setting the scene for for what’s the situation

muscle it up to the battles of Gettysburg what was the objective of America

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of the eye of the Confederate forces in the Bible

Army of Northern Virginia had already

racked up series a rather stunning

battlefield success is over the hill start

inside and now be filled with c**

Wisconsin spaces horny Virginia into Maryland

which slave states States States

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family hope there to draw the Army of the Potomac

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changes radically likelihood

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battle occurred Pennsylvania

ranging these 2 army battle last 3 days

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severe back to the Confederacy

what is the charge and Lee

Lee’s army comes out of that battle badly wounded

where is casualties difficulty higher proportion

does suffer is it the battle that the other

that legal to 51 if you’d make different decisions well that is

is certainly one point of view

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lead pencil third day of Gettysburg to do something that was

likely to succeed frontal

charge across a large pizza open field

entrenched opponents this kind of things sometimes

rarely succeed certainly argument

General

second in command James Longstreet are doing it

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infected the whole battle with steak

tactical offensive formations have found the way

self defense is elsewhere

health force acting over open

so yes this is often cited as a serious error

pardon after work LeAnn self pics

responsibility for adults

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in the meantime of this battle having been lost a man

and in the end the Southern forces feeling to make their games is it

is it is it is it understood by the Union that the what what’s but their own

advantages now understanding the importance of the victory at that time

Union Morales very low

prior to that paddle as a result of

the series of the fish that has suffered a fleece pants

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local news

House of Leaves electrified

races lyrics Ematic pics of Confederacy

longer period absorb just how serious

losses and effects what

so is this

is this a pivotal moment for the Civil War little moments in

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least once more Robert E Lee will never

never be strong enough after the loss of he suffers here

proximately yesterday at mans house

at the start never be strong enough to go on

what school district will never Londres

territory will live to rise

simply to the Union Army who are they

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hotels more often to take the chicken

what this is not the end of the war

this is not the beginning of the end of the Confederate Lee still have

who wins this war simpli5 sauce

patient appointment

back fat

so this is a float River SC has serious impact

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lease pacity as a commander

as

quite a long time after

what talking with University of Illinois history history professor Bruce Levine

about the Gettysburg Address in the Battle of Gettysburg in the Civil War

150 years ago tomorrow will be the anniversary of the Gettysburg Address

address let’s take another phone call I want to say hello to David from Urbana online 1

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good morning in focus on 150 with comment

up on the effect from current popular opinion of

the War of the southern revisionist historian

Dorian put the late 19th in the first half of the 20th

century is it still on  important

portent  I’m afraid it is um and not only

southern version Mac Mini North Korea

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things without you so for clarification fake

according to that use of war

what really about slavery at all I ever had about slavery end

rather out about states rights

jealousy calculations on both sides

Solon finally

XS was the war with the fact

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soldiers

side on your back

lasted from the late 19th century

virtually into the 1953 Leone

the scholarship of the 1950s

popular opinion of the Civil Rights Act of

gas station of the world

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fly but we still see the after effect in popular

people

Hmong public concerning the cause of the Civil War

chardee of Americans as a whole

iPad slavery was the central cause of warts

worse does 30 years

slavery was the central close the war

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goodnight

so we still wrestling with a misunderstanding

thank you thank you very much for calling David and it probably doesn’t

what doesnt help than that of documents like the Gettysburg Address don’t mention

in the slavery question directly in Factor

going by district raising the Gettysburg Address doesn’t mention weather

weather the war dead the Lincoln is referring to are on the Union soldiers

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are soldiers on both sides is it

set something that’s been on thats that some people live in a different ways over the years

I’m sure the audience at Gettysburg do what he was talking about

well I think the emphasis was on the sacrifices made

after all of this is a speech

exercising the cause of preserving the Union I’m not safe to find

course of the cause of Social Security part sew in

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Lincoln doesn’t say I’m talking on the soldiers I think it’s pretty cool

pretty clear that that’s what primarily there no Confederate troops bear

who is buried at Gettysburg you know I actually don’t know the answer

questions that there are hardly imagine if you could not be

ok  I was wondering

also as we were talking about and you were mentioned in the eye

what are the reasons that President Lincoln moved away from the idea of c**

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call of colonizing on African Americans elsewhere was the one reason why

fighting in the war effort were there African Americans fighting at Gettysburg

no they were not this is not one of the major

battles African American soldiers

become more and more important to the war effort 1860

4&a specially at the final confrontation

the same two armies in around Richmond and Peters

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Petersburg size of a proportion

okay I understand I was just just been able to dip a little bit into your most

most recent book but the of the Confederacy was also looking at the using

African American troops did they ever go that far will they refuse to do so

fight song

my health stills for the Confederacy

military age white men

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refuse to do so because they are waiting for the preserve slavery

and that the idea of black interior

Central Park African American slaves

Secretary of War on its side

we can’t Lifehouse everything

Alucard Asian

however 5 November of 1864 becomes so tired

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Jefferson Davis about face

hour and then start talking about offering Freedom 2

black man to fight for the Confederacy

steps of firestorm of controversy in the Confederacy

precisely on the same grounds that the

refuse to consider this idea all along

Army Reserves talking about

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in order to win victory what’s the point

victory if we lose everything back with fighting 41st

first place watering down

post legislation very happy

get passed at the last minute which Actually

not offer free and does not compel

any slaves simply loud with Sept

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Emily slave that a slave owner chooses

emancipate and hand over to the Confederacy

and the end result is acetic lease Mall

well I’m one

I’m wondering when looking at it being very clear during the war what does what’s the issues

shoes of the Civil War and the succession were about when did the revisionist

Asian ISM start in the idea that this was strictly on Mars

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mostly a state’s rights battle win the winds that start to Br

brq TX Confederate start to make this argument relatively soon

recognizing that slavery as now

how to become something virtually universally

excoriated I rather Schrute calculations made

if you want to honor the cause of the Confederacy

not to buy it as a last

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slavery ship the grounds on which your

aging sew a hole

host of X Confederate officers exempt property around

comes to centralize the Sun

junior size as much

accept that the second half of the 19th century is a period of growing races

racism in the United States and eating the transatlantic world DIC

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fighting a war for the sake of African American

even in park the climb

popularity rather striking in the north

so by the end of the 19th century Korean school

talking about slavery

war  and that’s an idea that sticks around for

infer for quite a while and afraid that’s all the time we have a very interesting ID

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ideas to ponder as we come to the anniversary 150th anniversary

history of Abraham Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address of vigil for the eyes

River Street begin at 7 tonight at the Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library

library and museum I think status offense Bruce Levine of the University of Illinois

Illinois for speaking with us today on focus

and this is focus on will