The Day Kennedy Died: A conversation with former life editor Richard Stolley

                                    
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biggest news story of Richardson

Richard Stallings happened in Dallas 50 years ago this month Dollywood

Life magazine bureau chief Los Angeles news President Kennedy’s

assassination how to mount a plane in Dallas with an hour Dairy help the range

strange interviews with wife and mother Lee Harvey Oswald and made a deal to buy the right

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Abraham Zapruder home movie show me the assassination now

Mountain Mikes magazine is published a coffee table book JFK assassination

Stoneleigh at his to Jesse in every frame of the superfans

Jim Meadows dicks Tommy Jones today

my program continues after the news

welcome to focus some gym Meadows my guest today Richard Stony is a NATO

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native of central Illinois and I understand he got his start as a teenage sports reporter

what is hometown paper the Pekin Daily Times what is major work has been with the timeline

Life magazine group he’s been the managing editor of time and life

magazine and was the founding managing editor of People magazine

what was as West Coast bureau chief at life Flat Stanley Cup at the store

lifetime the assassination of President John F Kennedy in November

1963 now is near the 50th anniversary of an event life

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Life magazine has published the book looking back the day Kennedy died

is available is a $50 coffee table book and an abridged $13

new standard edition installing is included in a book with a Vivitar nickel

on his experiences covering the assassination dicks dolly welcome to focus

thank you very much and I don’t wanna jam yes can I say one thing

one thing sure you describe me in sports reporter I have to tell you I was

Irish sports editor sports editor where to staff of one

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hahaha I’m sure you were very regular ok

you know just just for the up openers here um there’s

there’s so much of course of media attention being paid this 50th anniversary

besides the media’s love anniversaries why do we look back on the

on the Kennedy assassination with this surgery on City

if it was it was kind of a mine

I’m coming event on the iPhone ever Experian

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parents not not not even 911 of probably because it was a singer

single person that everybody could relate to identify with

and I think the impact on the country

watching that funeral on Monday yet to come

is galvanized the nation a.m. And Noah

no all the way that I have experience in my lifetime anime B

maybe it’s because the media was at a point work with ring finger

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bring things to American so quickly I mean I guess I’m not sure

sure but I don’t think the 50th anniversary of the McKinley assassination at the start of a tension

well it mean if it was kind of the dawning of of television coverage

um television concentrated on the funeral in

rollin Washington not on the crime in Dallas um network television

television really was out of nowhere to be seen

whats the present body went back to Washington but their coverage of funeral

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general that Monday was absolutely magnificent and if its a tarp

talk the American television industry how to cover a huge event like that

I know I remember you know I was only 7 at the time but I was aware enough

20 to perceive it was really nothing else on television

for about 3 days from the assassination to the funeral

General of the three major networks at a time will just doing continuous coverage

El Paso I’m doing the program welcome your calls

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call send emails with your questions and memories of Virginia incest if you’re cute

too young to remember what the other two young to remember it directly I let us know what the event

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you can also email as a WY el dash taunted Illinois dot

.edu dick I’m wondering if you could just uh put it back in

rockin that time just before the assassination how was President Kennedy

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regarded Ines day we hear all the accounts comparing the Kennedy White House to camera

Camelot that cannot have been a universal sentiment weather camelot Theme

really was invented by Mrs Kennedy after the assassination

but the fact that remains the thing the country was

extremely curious tolerant of

off of President Kennedy City

through some rough times

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mostly involving Cuba Libre the Cuban Missile Crisis Center in before the

for that  the dissident invasion of Cuba

um he went to Texas was he was having Syria

Sirius political problems there and he was looking forward to 1

a second term you have to carry Texas Texas was very cheap

H&C and it’s the reason why he went down who went down there

despite all of these problems the country

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um  really really Politico

directions to 11 people didn’t like him and conservatives all the rest but generally speaking

speaking America was transfixed but if critically handsome

some glamorous president with incredible glamorous family

um he’s the wizard a

I wouldn’t say reverencia to young for that but

it was a movie star for a president and dumb

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and everything he did of made Newsom

Life magazine was the the bringer of such a new

news in pictures to America and the world if if if the trip

trip to Texas had just been a regular trippin the assassination had that happened

what life is covered it would have gotten a couple of pictures of pictures we always

always covered him where everyone and we had a photographer and a

um a quarter on the Press bust a b***

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of course if if the oven Oswald Indianapolis

nothing to 6 lug is Google depository it maybe would have been a couple of pictures on

is there about is Texas strip an app that would have been if you’re absolutely right

now you were the West Coast bureau chief for LIFE Magazine so you were in Los Angeles

on November 22nd 50 years ago how did you first hear the news

Nielsen how did you react when I first heard the news

we have AP teletype which just before the Internet

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off we had a reporter who had been aid Texas

city auditor and he couldn’t stand not knowing what was going on in the world

world so he would wander from is office to the Associated Press teletype

24 times a day just to make sure nothing happened

ebony phat and he was standing in front of the toilet I 10 slices

born again spitting 4th shots for Dallas president make

maybe wanted and the first I heard of it was Tommy Thompson was his name

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baby shower de dick Kennedy’s been shot in Dallas

and I ran out to the BP machine watch

watch Ted for a minute or two it became wear something big

what happened there  Iran back to my office called New York

on the phone they are just got the same news I said what can we do

can we do and the orders for clear how fast can you get to Dallas

so that’s what you did that to you you you anime

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Tommy Thompson got a gun on a plane to Dallas who did aunt fortunately to photographers

where in the bureau at the time with their equipment thank God

thank God and I said okay we’re all going

backpack nothing we just ran for the offer the airport

and we are just as we’re going into LA Airport

Airport the president died and Tommy dominos

will being driven air by another college how many men did the ground

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I can remember to this day then we all piled on this night

national Airlines plane about an hour after we heard the news

and by about 4 o’clock we were in Dallas you just mention tummy time

Tommy Thompson’s reaction this was a big story but it was also a big blow to the country

what country did you yourself experiencing a personal reaction as well as the perfect

the professional  the truth will not move

not until I got back to LA I think most journalism no hand and tell me so

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certainly could not have been more professional 16 there

b***  reporters learn to just gotta put the remote

motions aside and dumb  and its what

what office did there um we didn’t have much time to watch TV with didn’t wash

the as as the terrible nation watched on Monday the

the funeral and the is interesting

you mentioned the book with done at the day Kennedy died it was when I was preparing I did what

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backup did some some reporting look the files that I had

msn Siri read lived that weekend in a movie

motion away writing that story um

the way that I did not at the time listen to nothing that’s very into

interesting 50 years later all this love 50 years later on

all of this coming back to you and I know that that article is very vivid

vivid and detailed it just seems like no time to past it all

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I want you know at this point dick in this is war like to set the scene intern

term of where the news media was a 1963 because the medial NC

landscapers changed so much and umm the coffee table edition of the day

Kennedy died includes a facsimile edition of the issue of life that

reported the Kennedy assassination am i producing Lindsey moon who’s online

younger than you and I took a look at it and she was very impressed by the physical size of the Magi

the magazine GI believe she actually wonder if it was being printed larger than its

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its original size life life was it was outside back then

and a lot of magazines worth everything from Ladies Home Journal the boy’s life wasn’t

big format what can you talk about the prominence a magazine like life

had in the news media landscape I have century FL well

well it if it was a picture magazine with a lot of words but we we

the size of photographs which is like getting this burger from for life with

was so critical for me they came out every week or by biggest

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biggest competitor was look at it it came out only every other week

network television um at the time of the Kennedy assassination

had been on for half an hour only a few months and 50

15 minutes before then the evening of living Network new skin

cast yes exactly the evening news caster and toe

for many Americans um for millions of Americans life

life was their window on the world weird correspondence in photography

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everywhere we covered everything and

and uh and what life would come on on Friday and Romero

American homes and I for December the times I can imagine it would be a big

big fight who would get the magazine first and and Paige

find out what was happening World War important

what it look like  we are talking about the assassin

assassination of a President John Kennedy what happened 50 years ago November

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ember 22nd are God is Pekin Illinois Pekin Illinois native dicks tumblr

who was on the staff of Life magazine and covered the assassination

has a new article about the events in the Life magazine book the day Kennedy died

side of this also an excerpt from the article initial of Time magazine from

last month with locking your questions comments are memories at 1

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the wild and talk at Illinois .edu and that phone number again is wanted

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800 222 w I ll let me go ahead and take

take phone call a Steve from champagne good morning urine Focus good morning

show a hard to believe it 750 years

I suppose it’s one of those events Chicago Bulls much like Pearl Harbor

11 that the on 58 and I can recall like it was yesterday

today’s Catholic Grammar School on southside of Chicago having the up

cry and just amazing but I wanted to ask your test to quick questions

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Adventure 2005 have a 18 year old daughter

daughter in course you can put your mind around assume all of this is coming back

why is this so important everybody talking about it

and I was wondering if you guys baby to talk to his perspective s2 if you would

changed if you know that goes events would have never happened

t*** exposed 20 20 bucks Vietnam and water gave all those things

things we forgot about hard left after Kennedy assassination

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I was wondering if you got the country would have been different and why it’s such a seminal event

finally if it is on personal police if you thought the Harvey act alone

loan arena thank you very much dick that for first question if

if Kennedy had had lived maybe been re elected to a second term

how do you think the issues with handle the issues facing the nation at that time

its  he had Satan he was a tie

with a terrific speaker and unbelievably articulate an articulated goals for

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for America in those first three years that I think he would have tried very hard to

how to accomplish if he had a second term

Linda Johnson with better at manipulating Congress than Kennedy was

that’s why does civil rights bills were passed by Johnson that they propose

proposed by Kennedy and Johnson got them pass I take it

think it’s very likely that those bills would have been passed and in the second

second term that the glamour would not have one

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one of the fact that the President Kennedy was misbehaving on

unbelievably during all of this it’s unlikely that that would have

what have come out the reporters were very very cautious

Anna and their coverage mm does a lot of new what was going on

so I think the Kennedy with a second term

Woodbury likely and and Vietnam I don’t know who knows it hits

its so I don’t think he had that kind of Texas macho attitude that to

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good to the Johnson had that I think preventative in many ways

is from pulling out of Vietnam but I suspect

Kennedy in to terms with gone down as a very successful

bull and memorable president do you think much would have changed from what happened

under under the Johnson administration and in terms of policies a decision

decisions well it’s very likely that would not have been a Johnson ministration Amina Thai

Johnson at the end of the second term assuming even that he would have

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would have been vice president and

who is some magic asian with the Kennedy camp of replacing

placing him Kennedy’s did like Johnson and Johnson as people don’t like Kennedys

maybe in a second term that would have been a different vice president possible yes

and and John Smith at point was getting on in years we just

we just had a very young President Kennedy and the NIH

think I question seriously weather Johnson

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I would have been elected president autozone let me get 2001

one big subject because we’re already getting a couple of colors and that and that

and that’s about to the home movie that Abraham Zapruder took off the

presidential motorcade which one on one which can be seen the shooting of love

John Kennedy Unigo ciated with Abraham Zapruder

how to get the rights to the film for LIFE Magazine how did those events planned out

out  why does displaying the wheel took tube

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Dallas listen to before I went in

set up a man and office in the Adolphus hotel in downtown Dallas

about a two eyes about 6 o’clock I got a phone call from

a part time life core spawn in the stringer is Legoland

who invented the Dallas PD at all afternoon going home to feet

how to feed your children got a phone call from the reporter friend who said he turned from a car

mcop this is the way the reporter heard from a company called

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because are reported reporter calls me anyway it that a businessman have been a dealer

Dealey Plaza with a movie camera and was said to a photograph the fascination

Asian and I thought I could God and I said what

how to refine who is this man he said I can

8 install it for me buddy pronounce that and she put out did the PRU dor

didn’t have a first name I’ve never been to Dallas

before self pick up the phone book iPhone phone books for useful reference

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imports and research tool back then yes

antiseptic clear and my finger down disease and death

I got there was the APR uder, Abraham

and M on the phone number

I started calling  and  call

15 minutes for the next 5 hours and at 11 o’clock

this with voice answer and it was I determine that it was Mississippi

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indeed photographed

The Assassination heat scene it you got the whole thing I ask

if I could come out and see the film right then he said please don’t

don’t you said I’ve had a terrible day witches to put Molly

and he he said come to my office at 9 o’clock tomorrow morning

and because I knew that other reporters

becoming possession of the same information I got there

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is there an hour early I got there at 8  n

yo you really have to sign some Mr Zapruder up really quickly does a sign how to talk to him

to him and convention to let life used to film what were your impressions of love

Abraham Zapruder  he was a grieving man

man uh mostly um but he was a business

businessman I’m a good one and he was his business like it could possibly be

Levi Odessa film his head when I got there looks like

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looks like you know that I was an hour early but he said I’m about to show the film

the 2 secret service agent says so you might as well come in so I did

why did I thought this incredible pizza film for the first time realize

realized that life had to have a & M

when the time came the reporters Kors short office license pectin

show the film to them um I dis disappeared

disappear what went out in the end if I said can I sit somewhere else Mississippi

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is Bernie put me out and is with his office staff

format his secretary is a system was from Taylorville Illinois

that’s right central Illinois not far from Springfield right hand and uh

when she told me that II said to Taylorville is a river

Direct basketball team and so we talked about high school basketball

and um we got a long way Wellington turned up

thats that became very important vs predator what the time came he shows

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the show the phone to the other porters and then a gathered is all in the sand

out of the hall me said I know you want to speak to me one by one

I wanna be a star from life was first

reporter to contact me so I feel obliged to talk to him first  well

well the other reporters went berserk when I heard that and uh

big and screaming shawty dont sign anything promise ill talk to us

and I just gonna melt away we went into his office

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office in the later I had the film

no you have to do you have to make some choices its invent

the next issue of Life magazine published several frames

from that movie umm you don’t publish everything of course

course of hydrogen how do you make the decisions at store for so I didn’t I stayed

Dallas to cover the rest of the story a courier to film

set up of emergency office at the printing plant the Donnelly

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Franklin and Chicago and they they made a decision

vision not to run the infamous frames 330

13 witches when the president head explode

um they felt that the this would be a 2 disturbing

the Kennedy family and um so they didn’t run that particular friend

frame there any others of present clutching is throat after

hit the back misses Kennedy crawling

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rolling along the trunk trying to get away in my opinion

Secret Service agent jumping on the bed limousine pushing your back into it all off

all of that was there a headshot was not in the first

humanitarian reason did you for you know of course over the

over the years so many series built up mini of the based on what is in

prisoner not in this film will you even a b*******

where people even able to study the film that carefully to Reno to figure

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the figure out what was going on in terms of selecting the frames

well its its its kinda fast if I have my own Siri um

the super Turf & M there is a kind of History

ambiguity to it that the super film to me is the best argument

EXIF for a single shooter  when is the best argument

committed exist for a conspiracy both at once both both at the same time

same time I mean there are things in the film Hum

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the president after the the terrible headshot the president bodyslam

slammed back into the  the backseat of a limousine

name of conspiracy people say that proves that was a shot for me

the grassy knoll and that’s with slammed in back into the sea

of neurologist pathologists say because

because of the massive what does the brain that was a eighth of a gal

galvanic response muscular response VIPs slam them back in there

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where is it to the was no shooter another shooter

shooter in the end the grassy knoll

okay so its its indepence interpretation here exactly

happily now in the day Kennedy died in the book of love

the book does reprint every frame in color this time from the zip

disapproval film what if I read correctly I also its also written that

that of the film was damage to some extent during processing I’m not sure that street

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during the initial processing or later and that a few friends like me be half a dozen

are missing about 3 or 4 yes and that was done with

when I sent the film up to Chicago life made a weird to run in black

black and white because we didn’t have time off to do color color chart

several days back then they made a black and white to Prince and then they made

Mayday mean individual Prensa frames and then they made a print of the film itself

self which is what they sent to New York so they could see it and in doing so

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self 234 impossibly frames with damage

the happy to cut them out but they were early in the film the 1 of 2

2000 it important to know what was going on

and of course that’s not going to satisfy a lot of people show

some people in the scene that could be crucial to the events well I myself

M named into conspiracy plot well I know

I know that I didn’t know I was talking to someone so important hum

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attention must be paid a year did the Scottsboro 2011

one of them is that I took the film I got the phone from a misses

misses brother and I want a mediately to a secret CIA photo lab outside Dallas

where they deal with the frames in rhe Rainism

inorder to to come cover up the fact

the multiple shooters now

explain that but that’s one of them in the second is that I was

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I was so  arrested by by Toyota

Texas the policeman when I try to get a

the suitcase full of cash to Marina Oswald

okay I type I plead not guilty to both charging

we have an email from Jack in Champaign and the nervous system

is correct a science and the film the super film is not shown on television

for many years we just saw the still photos why was that

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the two reasons for one is that when I was negotiating with misses router

Ebag depleted with me he said whoever gets his film

film  I do not want them to exploited any user

you said word repeatedly adhesives are fact you know I want that to be

to be in any kind of contract that that I sign

that day I negotiate it only for print right

that was on Saturday I came back on Monday after your cat litters

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Henry lose some self head seen the film

and they said we want to we want to get alright so

50000 on Friday and Monday I paid

100000 Ando and time incorporated life have

alright we decided partly for competitor

positive reasons and partly in in keeping with Mr Cooper

routers to play an art Greenman not to exploit the we fell

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felted the we did not wanted seen on television

and the Bandit what’s the deal collars that sleep right 10197

7520 Arroyo Rivera I put on a boot

bootleg copy that is it legal copy on ABC television

now got no not today the film is is what about Lander standard

that does the dead live magazine games is a return

return the rights to the film to the Zapruder family and it was subsequently

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alia Bhatt by the federal government um I guess not for hiding anything but first

essentially to make it public yeah what they wanted to

to have the film interposition which they actually had had for several years

it’s very fragile thing on and its been in the National Archives

hives even Time Inc after National Park

archivers to preserve it to humidity temperature that kind of thing which they did

faded okay we’re going to take a short break now and will be back with more c**

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conversation with veteran time life in People magazine editor dicks only about

about covering the Kennedy assassination this is focus on wyll

what back on focus on wyll mg meadows in buttocks

talking with Pekin Illinois native dicks Tali who helps cover the Kennedy assassination 50 years

50 years ago for LIFE Magazine he has a new article about that event in the life

The Life magazine book the day Kennedy died and welcome your questions comments

diamonds are memories at 1 800 22 29455

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email acid will dash talk at illinois.edu

edu the phone number again is 1 800 222

Wilo effects of Commerce waiting patiently I don’t know the answer the question

Giada not but online 1 dead in a Bena the do you have any other questions regarding others

Sabrina Fillmore anything else about the Kennedy assassination Jim like you said you into

anticipated to my questions here but I’m a star if it’s great to

great to talk to you I’m not a conspiracy theorist Sona set up front

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very curious about the decisions wife made im 12

someone sick why is the film how many um the presentation Zapruder film

film in the memorial issue that came out the week after is really extraordinary

and then there was also mention I do not

publish or otherwise mother

frames from the film and I guess my question is

who is making the decision to move this a um a kind of

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is such a extranar situation that resemble Henry Luce stepped in

captain make decisions or I know that ICD Jackson Ubly with the publisher of life

the time whiskey making decisions were made this

more less go to the shore mall certified normal editorial processes

Macy’s decision  well I mean

that’s a very good question fortunately I thought I was not in New York at the time

the time and it and I only know what I’ve been told

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loose all the film

over the weekend and Concord the life should

should I get it and and then the decision of

not allowed to be shown on television on movies

that had to have been a decision that the loose

Wood weather not in heat

it was his decision the weather with some played he was told and untold the reason

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and usually decisions off of that nature

what made by the editors of the magazines and dumb

but but it does that was important enough that the Denver lose I’m sure

sure was aware of life policy in regard is a separate from

thank you very much and thank you very much for calling um

um I’m wondering if you have a dick you talk about Abraham Zapruder as a man was grey

is grieving when you first start talking about the movie of the shooting

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shooting what happened to Abraham Zapruder in later years how did the notoriety of this film

effective  IFTA what in

in the book the day Kennedy died routers granddaughter

published author writes about the impact on misses spreader

the family  the impact was enormous um

first Hwy receive bags and

bags of mail um and most of a address

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address simply Abraham Zapruder Dallas Texas and post office

Golf Course know that we would have delivered does um

hip to get haunted him he he have to testify before the war

Warren Commission Vesta getting this ass nation wept off when I move

what movie was with showed um  when he and his wife

is wife travel to Chick fil A in Europe when they would sin Hotel registers

Mrs desk clerks with awesome look up and say  are you this approve

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who to ask questions like that um

he he gave  he gave me

give me the original and on and on Monday the only

the only other copy had and I realize a few weeks later that he didn’t have a copy

copy the film I call them up and I said missus Peters MO

you don’t have copy that film we can make a terrific 1st generation

copy and send it to you and he said I’m sorry I don’t want that film in my house

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I needed um

is it haunted him  forever The Family interesting

f didn’t talk about it much because

freedom Self died in 1970

7 years after the film was made an

I mean the separate film has become

just a catch phrase that the anyone who was alive at the time does exactly

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exactly what you talking about and um  the family

family of God in many ways is

still kind of suffers

in the mall its to get a lot of people are not quite sure but they know it’s something

kind of gasoline Graham and the ant and anyone names

names of router have to go through life without curse

what’s wrong with dicks only who was with Life magazine at the time of the a Kennedy

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Kennedy assassination and we have a cooler online for from Belgium Illinois good morning

good morning good morning to have remember when

high school biology class my sophomore year when the thing happen

Anna and I remember the time the bird man

map of people going to happen understood still going

going to squish termini many to fax something because the candy

the family that want to get out the years World War 2

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what years are we going to be finding things we don’t know we’re all just stories

Boston things that might come to life

no you’re not a princess

is that pink dress the missus Kennedy awards at the was so staying with blood

blood in hand and body parts  that is Ben

kept refrigerated in National Archives in somewhere

and at the request of the Kennedy family I don’t think that’s going to be

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taken out and shown until 2017

name something like that  things to make sure the future

Yes button nothing lisa ann my view

do off of any kind of forensic importance of the Tsar

these are artifacts um that better sequestered is you put it

um more out of concern for the kind of

what kind of personal impact them historical myself and thank you very much

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very much for calling a dick im wondering because of course you were with LIFE Magazine

after the assassination lady you were at People magazine as an editor

you must have been a position consider articles about people still wondering about

about the Kennedy assassination still wondering about possible unknown evidence surface

conspiracy theories how did you handle those &&&&& the publication side

well life did a lot of

a lot of attention to the Kennedy assassination after with only a few months

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um  after November wedidit store

the story with governor Connally who discovered from is grievous wounds

governor of Texas was on governor of Texas who was in the end in the limousine a jump

jump seat and badly wounded he hum he is convinced

when was convinced an apparently to is dying day was the second shooter

that one bullet at Kennedy and the separate bullet hit him

is Siri was the bullet pass to Kennedy’s body and then

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Android his could not have done the really awful call the of a woman

wounds that he suffered from that day anak

heatbeat remember he came to the office in a 100 frame by frame

anndretta big story on this time we ran the frames in car

color and we didn’t run frame 313 & M soul

so we continued at one point of life Renta de Toro saying

saying that to the magazine like some any others was

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not satisfied with the Warren Commission and the it

it should be reopened no I was not involved

vault this is done in New York in the top 10

how did the story when I was in washington,pa which I went to a few months

month after after Dallas misses Kennedy’s office

office call up and said that they were going to mount an exhibit of the same

the things were in the Oval Office 101 Kennedy was

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President and the idea was to raise money for the visually became the Kennedy

Kennedy Center Harvard and the question was would life magazines

can be interested in doing such a story I said we wouldn

12 conditions that we can get a cover for the graph of misses Kennedy

Kennedy and that you would grab me a interview

Williams with yes I’m the cover no ID

what we did to a story  when is real

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is result of the story the Kennedy family Missouri please I was invited to the opening

running off of the exhibit in New York and I met Miss is Kennedy for the first time

is the only time  um I was wondering

pull out of that meeting with her um I walked in

um  first time a Teddy Kennedy

Kennedy and who introduce me to Bobby who I had known stomach

stomach Stan and then Bobby turn to Jackie NSAID

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Jackie of this is $6 from life and she looked at me

me and I was on eyes opened up and this is credible eBay

recipe for a 60 dolly Douglas

wonderful story well

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I wanna um I want I want to turn on when we still have time we have about us

what about 6 minutes left and there was a nother important meeting that you were

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you were part of when you were covering the Kennedy assassination for life not was

helping to arrange the meeting for an interview with the wife and the mother of

off of Lee Harvey Oswald and I’m just wondering about the memories you have

you have about that event and what you were able to size up from the meeting the family

family well tommy Thompson who was the course monitor with their

nudity said I know Texas cops let me go after that part of the story what you did

exclusive interview with members of the Aswan family um

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and photographs almost not a witch we ran back then

them but they are in this new book incredible set a photograph

Atami called me up and said he’s got the terrific story are the reporters

Portishead not showed up yet but they said you going to he said I think we should hide the family

now this me some kind of Horror fine but I greet a mediately and we brought them in

into the hotel at the office and put them in the sweet it doesn’t sound like something out of the front page

page what we were competitive Backpage

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so we did and does they came into

will it set up this weed is out of office and they came an end

I tell you I have  this was it will be gone a

family as I’ve ever seen that mean they would just despondent depressed

it was Marinos spoken most no English that point I was the one

the wife of the wife of Aleve Lee’s wife the brother Robert

two tiny daughters and Levy and Roberts mother

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Marguerite Oswald who I hope it’s not libelous

who is a tune up case and the f & she

G  was the most vocal of all the Wii

we have a way that please don’t open the door after the phone but order

order anything you want to from room service Robert

at that point I said he needed a diapers and

and baby food for these two daughters and I’ve given 40 bucks

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okay and if we did you meet

never again after that I’ve sport of spoken to Marina a couple of times

the phone English is much much better

um and she she’s

she’s change your mind about her husbands involvement and dumb

firsy denied in tirely then she began acknowledging it

and uh and no infection villages at b***

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but but says it was a conspiracy the other people were involved your own feelings

Harvey Oswald acted alone that is my firm belief

okay nothing nothing nothing pans out and you certainly looked at um a lot of materials

Orioles in the files that you went over to write this new article District

just nothing there that you feel that would gesture on answered questions

Avant before and after but I was world was alone up there

ultracet floor was a good marksman Dealey Plaza is unbelievable

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unbelievably small it wasn’t that a party shot um

but I’d also do not think that he had any help from

you know mysterious force is before or after work

afterwards who was the killer mean after a shot the president shot Donna Dallas

Dallas cop um he was a very disturbing man ok

kay and you don’t think that the actions by about the shooting of all is well by Jack

Ruby would have been a part of any larger conspiracy to keep things choir

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that Monday I wanted to find out about Ruby so we went to the carousel club strip club

the team that he ran when we were life we talked away M

do a vis dances with air and they make up saying oh my god

I got the touch like that was so Jack he thought he was going to be a hero

he didn’t want this is gonna do they have to come back to Dallas for trial

he thought if you got rid of of Oswald he would be a hero

they keep using that word hero anime convention that’s exactly

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exactly why did it interesting um um there are some on some telegram

the printed in the day Kennedy died address to Jack Ruby essentially congratulating

people for for for shooting Lee Harvey Oswald

um 11 last question is cleaning up from a Twitter?

Brandon about to the police about super film through a rolled Rivera

Rivera using a bootleg copy and sassy of time live at the Fillmore

who made the bootleg we gave we gave copies of

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the film to law enforcement agencies of all over Washington State

State Department CIA Dallas PD there were many copies out there

what there a & O & bootleg copies I think we’re probably star

started making nose within days after the assessment

sesames what we are out of time here of course there is a whole lot more the talk about

about here and a whole lot more will be talked about in the next few days to come

become the dolly I bet you have a pretty busy schedule yourself because because of this anniversary

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if it brings back man of many members as you can as you

as you can what do you think you very much for being on focus today dicks Stalin edit

editor for TimeLife People magazine’s thank you for sharing your memories insults about the earth

Matthew Kennedy assassination which occurred 50 years ago 1 week from tomorrow

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