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fisherman invasive Asian carp poses a direct threat

the Great Lakes and their way of life to shuffle EP Corolla something different

dinner music from the ugly ugly fish

what come up with the night away

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is the federal government poses multi billion dollar project to stop the Asian carps March

search for Lake Michigan research shows the commercial fishing to play a significant role in fighting

the spread of the fish if anyone buy a gun camera for taking the Great Lakes

Irie branding Asian carp that’s coming up on focus after the snooze



good morning mother to focus your own wiol im Scott Cameron singing for Gemini today

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is everything Asian carp you know these are the big ugly fish in the rain vases

last month Army Corps of Engineers proposed the number of options to stop the fish from investing

the Great Lakes reticular 1 proposal permantly separate Lake Michigan from the Chicago River

River Emeli 20 billion dollars back in 2010 Fishman working

working for the state of Illinois caught in Asian carp in Lake Calumet that will be on the electric barrier

septa stop to fish for getting too close to Lake Michigan entering the Great Lakes Sean price

price is a commercial fisherman base in Fulton Illinois use the wonderful that fish out of water to snow

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just now by phone Shawna welcome to focus hello how are you doing how you doing

how you doing great so it I’m taking his 2010

there was a problem in Asian carp removing up the towards the Great Lakes it was already

already electric barrier in place there you’re taking part in a separate a watch for Asians

Asian carp did you ever think you find one in Lake element um no

the fault was that the probably wasn’t on Asian carp that existed above the barre

barriers but um are job was to prove that

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fat mom and I guess what happened was with prove that there was

facing official of the barrier 97 single fish were there any others arms

no I’m in so far no there’s been

is bin  a tremendous amount of effort put in

how to locate another one how many different club Avenue

avenues of of trying to locate a fish that what we do

what we do is this the netting on this also been shocking

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sampling with different types of nets Mets all sorts of

efforts by Michigan pound that’s been used saying has been used

and nothing come up with another fish and I don’t know the exact number but its

but its its many many many miles off of net that has been laid

late in around Lake Calumet and no other fishes been located 97

good news another another want to come through there and also I guess you you call the one

yeah um did you realize you mention of this this

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this is onslaught of Africa try to find any more Indian Lake Elementary places nearby

why when you put that thing on the water did you realize if I could have said be creating a canister

Mr no no not at all um it was excite

exciting to do it not knowing the impact that it would have

I’m glad that I was the one long with my partner

Iron Brown I was glad to be the one that um does that cost

caught the fish but yes the the after effect was so much greater than I

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anticipated DMV this week describe a fish is a big one

yes it was so around 20 pounds and it was

what we call a big head or black converse two different kinds of age in the sylvers

is Argo on Centerville  the type that jumping flying

why in the air and that’s one thing but there are both Asian carp in the both of bases in the boat

do a lot of eating um yeah it was a 20 pound fish

fish and really caught as far up like Kelly Madison

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what is you can go and we were done sampling for the day we actually had made it was actually Dexter

extra set when we have the required amount of minutes we had to set we were done with that

im Lexus trying out a couple extra nets and that’s when we got lucky

futsum don’t know me to the mechlight is very serious

is problem posed beige carpet many people saying and there’s real solutions try to care

I take care of it but this is a great Christopher yeah yeah it should

definitely a great for a story it’s definitely needle in a haystack

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thing if you if you think about how much effort and how many people in how many organizations

sons of been involved to try to find another fish anywhere above the barriers

and that one fish vino almost 4 years ago now is the only

the only fish still to been pulled up the ass its crazy I am so you talk about you

about your putting up and that’s been doing all the difference to catch him

musica fishing think of putting up the middle worm on a hook Asian carp eat plankton

Canada buy nikon stuff how do you catch the fish Tom we use

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used primarily gill nets um and donuts consist also a

love travel Nets um Laden if the stuff you know

are not serve 100 200 yards longer if they’re basically tangled

that’s nice women they get caught the kick it out and that’s the stuff

the effort covers much ground as you can but you’re also as a Fishman looking for a

for a rheostat look im I can say fishy they look like a rheostat

Woodhull fish and that’s how we get some typical Asian carp school

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school up theres alot when you find some there’s a bunch of in a bun

bunches of them so what’s your deal with something like that word is needle in a haystack all the time

what time is it just enough for the puss much net in water as you can in um

gogogo located whatever um area

area you can tell your partner will work is working a DNR to harvest Asian carp

are but water place where they at the Charles Way commercial fishermen what have you seen what have a sim card

carbon to the to the fishing industry in the state of people

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well for one I guess I can’t say that Asian carp necessarily a bad thing

thing in the commercial fishing industry because it is given more opportunity

um I guess presented another species

Macy’s in other fish that that we can go after to make to make money

what effects on the river have have been bad Tutera

terrible umm when I first started Jason Asian carp some down and southern

southern Illinois Festus Cape Girardeau best States to the river official

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what this is probably going back to the late 90’s fish were still um healthy

the look in your sort of healthy looking knowledge they done so much to destroy that food

food chain to fish other than Asian carp Calvin that’s not the case and down there

Dave strong headstrong I’ll just they don’t have the

have the food that they want to live David out and have a sim card

carpet anywhere near replacing does fishing terms did the people trying to make a living off this river

rivers and lakes sure if you look at the Illinois River mom

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how have to think really hard does to pick up a year for you but if you

if you go back 20 when I was working at a fish market on back

back in highschool with the fiscal of Illinois River we’re worth Buffalo cafe

catfish carp now you hardly ever see a difference official EUC

Lucy a few hundred pounds in a boat but not know you’re talking boatload of Asian carp

carpet just a few other fishes Tolle reverse Illinois River from a

standard rough faced girl from Buffalo catfish type 2 almost sold

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soley Asian carp NFS the definition of invasive

species other you mention Circle changes over the years and going back to Southern Illinois

things that what what what are the changes that you seen in the numbers of fish in NEMO reef

more recent years where where are there right now where they going

I would say that it’s easier for for the expansion has a stop button

I don’t know that it slowed down mercy in a few more fish in my section

section of the Mississippi River now and then we ever have more than

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can I have since I started fish in not going fast know whether recipe

the temperature of the water to the dams I’m not really sure they proving they can go through

damn pretty easy so I don’t know if that’s the sustain Factor but the further north

Norfolk that the Asian carp go up a river the better they do

just because they’re moving into new territory with new food in new

eating opportunities but yes its changed anywhere they have grown in

Ronan and big numbers is change the river and it doesn’t take long

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within a few years and older 13 at food chain

down to bare bones CNNSI continue moving north cumming

area take over the food supply the other fish in area dwindled vanish

should I will never stand in a move on a container much north until they hit something

barriers are being built in mit stop them really slow down

right and all of those sell yourself short

commercial fishing has definitely  slow the progression

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pressing down we can’t fish north of believe the 180 bridges

Illinois on the Illinois River aunt catfish south

south of their own the blacks or the the big head Asian carp

are there numbers are drastically reduced um stuff to go down there

catchable look for it used to be for leaving I’m in position has done that are black

laxer typically the catch easier to catch they don’t the don’t jump over

normally um and they they do school up the sylvers

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are so powerful blow through the net so will black but you can still kind of container

silver jump over go around it through it and it doesn’t stop

stop this isn’t lets let’s get keep the heading of the directions to talk about the

fishing these niggs want to propose a came up Springfield Garvey in the

the conversation here is interim vice chancellor for research professor the Department of Southern Illinois

Illinois University iPhone Gym thank you noe

what you heard Im Sean Tony story there mention that the commercial fishermen have really been fishing down

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down this population of Illinois and other places you can talk to do a research project in

2012 the temperature quantify the Asian car problem and proposed solutions

among the solutions exactly that wrap up commercial production of fish is catching eat it

can you talk about the church what is the a project that were involved in

is working in the upper Illinois River and assessing the affects of commercial fishing

non exempt status US is commercial fishing have an impact on

don the car problem affair Chicago Adam

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dumb so has a fisherman work really hard and I do Wendy’s fish out

shout we do is qualified a lot of different ways the number to car battery

in the various pools backwaters up in that area

handjob what we found is that the there is an FM pack

fishing does reduce the sessions Factor fishermen are so good at doing this

take the fish out how much does fast is a Cummins problems

this is kind of like a sandbox in elegy is where you dig a hole

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and um FSU can a dick get home to take the fish out

more come back if im coming from lower river so

um you know it’s a Shore Thing where is the date that come and they start

are filling up that that hole and then very difficult to to stop it up without barrier

um and I know they haven’t moved all the way up to the bear

superior arias far as we can tell right now um take for whatever reason

theme to stop gamble at 18 Bridgeville were not exactly sure what it is

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what’s keeping him from doing now that’s for the next Giants question worth

building a fairly large populations it wasn’t for commercial fishing

fishing there now but the issue with something

commercial fishing the upper river is at its finest by federal funds to come to the States

state of Illinois does a contractor fisherman because

how to take apart of the river where is it is allowed in the lower portion of the river start

Starbucks damn and um so I’ve been a proponent that

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I believe that we done at the stop the

Sam from continuing movie up towards the Chicago area

no more barriers or more commercial fishing going on down south

will probably reduce the propensity face streaming

show up that sandbox for gas in Charlotte NC with your experiences

juicing is for you be going to one area you start a fish the population movement area

Ariana said you want to purchase going up and down the rivers of yes

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I believe most of that to next it except the what we called

we call the frontline the upper the upper part of the Asian carp movement like

what we call a stablished population on a river

Jim would probably agree that we have basically cut back

back that that frontline drastically if you look at the upper pole

purple that we we pull on big numbers official of the the numbers

drastically at the upper end of that the frontline off of that car

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Kurt movement known as you go down a river toward STAAR rock

um the number of blacks have been greatly reduced we still catch the sylvers

we were catching hum may be the same number but it’s because work

hitting that area harder and not the upper arias much but yes I mean

there’s no doubt we reduce the numbers um and there’s no doubt that new fish movie

the area given time I think I’m at the front line we are little above

I’m a little better than

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the fish we catch up that many more commin I think we’re a little head of that at that upper

the upper and NFC are the people really worried about it over and keep mice out of the Great Lakes

things because once I get there tonight? Some different in their b***

two states its making a clear difference there is helping to stop the your money back for just one second

different types of me say Asian carp UMich a couple different varieties what women with Asian carp

um  when we say carpal talking about Pope

the whole population of silver sand and the black cross breeding going on

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really long name for them other than hybrids um but yeah there’s the silver

silver jumping Asian carp in a nurse what we call these is a laxative big heads

the both of them both phases are both plankton feeders for both

very aggressive invasive species

Cindy with talk about how your Ontario working with a DNR others there’s not a tumor

commercial fishing allowed many the reason is Rivers what is an effort to stop these um

alarming certain amount of this right now can a commercial fishing

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operation make a living off of fishing Asian carp

2000 yes with a stable

Sabal palm market if it is possible in there are few guys doing

doing it now who who so you can say yes we’re talking a few guys a handful

pull up a dozen 1215 guys it best to are truly making a living off

Asian carp um to do to increase

reset number it would have to be a stable market and an ongoing market

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what I mean by that is when the Fisher easy to catch you can drop price

when you have to always be able to sell the fish if you open markets or a market

market that can hold handle as many fish that come through the doors as

Fishman can catch the opportunities will be greater might not last forever

because I think physicians would reduce the numbers to where you can no longer

make a living but yes if the price of fish went up a little bit

little bit and you could selfish 24 hours a day 7 days a week the absolutely

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Lee Summit Missouri plies the moment 2

if you ever questions about Asian carp if you have direct experience of the fish

few minutes with the chef who is made it really his mission to change people’s minds about the special talk about

talk about it commercial fishing an opportunity to be able to cut into the population to try to prevent from moving

Great Lakes mother arias call 802 to 2945

4550 drops will dash talk at Illinois .edu

Ross on Twitter at focus 580 Gym cardio connect you for a minute

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can you tell how big of a threat are Asian carp right now I’m thinking

invasive species a general are are are a threat to

Ohio aquatic systems um hey now you’re talking about a zebra mussels

Bulls in a wife in all these are the different species that have caused

cause of kinds of problems in the Great Lakes as well as in the rivers of the US in the late

Lakes of the lakes um so your visa species are always a really tough

problem because they can come in and have to medically negative potential impact

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um the issue with Asian carp his thumb

we’re talking about the species that they were introduced in the US back in the early

early 70’s brought in for  clean up waste water

ponds and also has a potential physicians well

well they skatetown in Easley movie waa up threw up the Mississippi

River basin in Illinois River in the late 90’s early 2000’s

people to pay much attention to them even when they’re up they’re Peoria really started the

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get close to Chicago that start with media issues

came up because they’re getting close to the Great Lakes the the million million dollars

question is what I get into the Great Lakes in a to say this in and I know that

what to talk about keeping about us some they are going to get in the Great Lakes Dave

they have been occasionally found the Great Lakes another Asian carp all the grass carp

and I’ll be free common carp are there already I’m happy I would say

LifeWay some big headed babies and silver carp in the oven

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the Great Lakes right now to start in Texas

probably not population the question is

is what I do if they can make a population stabilization

actually have no that is the Illinois River modified tiny animals

animals called soap lighten up and talk about that earlier that is open

gotten considerably smaller and how much every fish in the sea

insect larvae and everything else Relion does tiny animals for sale plankton

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is food so when the harp take that away from them to have a negative impact

best to get to the Great Lakes to do the same thing that you can have a fax something

things like that sleep of yellow perch of Hell wife with your Dell support

Portland get your check for things so um yeah its a real friend we don’t want to

what’s the population get in there fil A Song

that’s us we gotta stop it in Mercer fishing probably the best way to

places that you met you before the barriers nothing to what what else has been trying so far to

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how to stop the spread of the Asian carp the problem is that really don’t have a silver bullet right now

right now there’s nothing that targets other than commercial fishing much does a really good job

good job target bighead carp and crafts

grass carp fish species are out there what’s up

there’s really no poison that you can use that practice test Asian carp

Irvine talk about Trojan Jean how much is you

GN to the males in the Asian carp in the male celebrities male

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Leah LaBelle population size of a stranger than playing with his fur

for decades with common car problems Australian have to work out for a while

um have another how does technology that has been explored

words using these things called water cast iron a shirt without a face

is Highland water and credit concussion underwater what if

technically supposed to do is it takes to swim bladders calf letters in the fish the used

the used oil and explode doesn’t hurt

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jawbone carpenters that because I have very strong and ladders so it doesn’t help

help with the fish don’t like it I mean it is one of the research with doing up near the sea

Chicago area is looking at the FFA series water cut off if you

freshens out does it make the car turn around and go back to a river and end

yes it does and so that’s that’s another

where does having sex on other aquatic life in area yeah Usher

usher.com

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carpet are going to turn around lb walleye soccer of such a species

she said are not going to like that that would be used as a whole

turn around potential conduit fish movie

good spot to rock Lock and Dam um they seem to the carpet

polyp look at them um and we have some evidence for movement

is it that it does at times on keep fish from the streets they can still get through

threw up but not very often Sophia places like block certain areas

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area that might be a good place to get to have a local affected if I could have a general facts

family attorney for engineers not too long without a couple of

I don’t think of recommendation a couple possible the proposal video

that would involve billions and billions of dollars decades

how to build in do some pretty big feet of Engineering im so in many ways to

the immediate thing right now is the word talking about you’re trying to fish

fish them if not out of existence completely then at least the point where the population control

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rollable is Shonda YouTube

what you do with the Department of Natural Resources here is harvesting the fish what what does that mean

that mean what you doing right now how what we’re doing with MS

koi fish for the day um Dollar fish

oarfish back to a refrigerated a refrigerated semi trailer and weight

download them on with take time to count 30 of each BC

species the silver the Black Cat Scratch character also included in a 30

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30 slot Amway weight and measure with the help of the DNR

when are on a 30 of each species and then we on load everything in the summer

the semi trailer 1130 gives a star  weight

weight estimate for the day the year everyone look at it and our number

Testament are they going to the trailer in the visually at the end of the week does OOTD or whenever the semi

the semi trailers for the go back to Shaffer’s fish market to be turned into

Organic fish fertilizer fish fertilizer cities these particular Asian carp in a table

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the soul for food um no to my knowledge I think there’s still working on that

Matt naam as far as I know if we are still there still

I’m just for pleasure in others are have you ever

yes what is the flight amazingly good I think if

if somebody was had the Forsyte years ago to name these fish

silver salmon or something something to that if you actually more appetizing Sonic

yes because um I’ve had both the silver

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in the black and both amazing taste amazing texture

I’m not a big fish ear but I’m going to put Asian carp of both species right

is right up with walleye um and I can prove that pretty easy it’s a very white

white very flaky meat very mild um you look at that fish in think it would taste

taste this fishes you can get a lot of people really like woah

that I’m on being very honest man I’m headed to earth

who are three or four different ways and I haven’t had the way that’s not good its very

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very simple the cookout had a simple song is on the girl with little bit of butter and seasoning

what is POS planes you can get it was it was excellent that way

um Yellowcard name has has done um no

oh no favors for the delicacy in the me that believes right there

my top two or three fish that I would even any given day in India

Jimmy agree player and many other country is a delicacy

minutes bin nearly 15 the existence in the number of countries

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weather Sean price of thank you very much is Sean a commercial fisherman bass in Fulton Illinois

service part of a group of fishermen paid by the state of Illinois to help harvested keep an eye on monitor

monitor for Asian carp Ashanti understand you were going to be on the show thank you very much for doing

do not talking about no problem thank you thank you a gym garbage dinner invite chance of research professor

professor Department of Geology at Southern Illinois University apartment research team that deliver

including fishing commercial fishing to cut down the Asian carp population area

Mary a Gemini place to stick with here I were talking about the problem of an Asian carp invasive

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invasive species continue to threaten the Great Lakes of a talking about at least one potential solutions

fishing Asian carp if possible distance in Illinois

conceal a conversation about how does fish taste some of the barriers trying to get people to accept

accept them in in a bit different ways to Pearl a talk with his efforts to build

the market for Asian carp by convincing other shifts to serve it stay with its focus on WI

WRAL welcome back to focus on Wilo

im Scott Cameron singing Virgin metals today we are talking about the problem of Asian carp invasive

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is a species that continues to head towards the Great Lakes somebody ever to being done to stop it

I was on the phone with Jim Garvey and replace chancellor for research professor in the Department of Geology

Southern Illinois University take a big role in trying to determine Ali how many

the water is near by the weather doing what you’re up to how to stop them

including one real solution is going on right now is commercial fishing

talking about here with us chef Felipe Pirela was also been very involved in the

and not trying to change perceptions the special Olivia go to the phones right now I’m le is on the line

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flights to LA from Champaign IL ego head to your phone

hi thank you for taking Michael I want to the point Athens

nautical in the Wall Street Journal on January 29th Actually quotes

Chancellor on Garvey I’m talking about a number

plants 11 in Wickliffe Kentucky that actually has

has remained the fish Kentucky white in RR selling them frozen

um to China another one as mentioned in Thomson Illinois

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Illinois which Illinois frozen to 16 countries

turns into also to products in the United States is another company another plan

plants being opened in Grafton Illinois that’s going to process

16000 pounds of carpet de papel 2

how to turn it into fish oil dietary supplements etcetera

this morning this is a mansion what is so these are coming on

online and they say that the market in China is very white

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so this is this seems to be a

what should I say to a spirit to to us solve this

this problem questions to ask how fast it’s going to take off

take off um I don’t see much about selling it here but that’s I suppose with chef

the talk about thank you for that thank you for the leading let me go ahead

thank you for calling ilen the chef liberalism a line with us about working change perceptions about a

about Asian carp Ian Chappell Enterprise in Baton Rouge Louisiana to the show

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welcome A appreciate invitation Garvey

how are you great chef how you doing good I’m good to know each others running the same circle

circles yeah we are we have met a few years back when I was up there

doing something and 7 product the exchange in Cup

superfan cake yes he feet swell he’s a good good chef

what is a permit to go back to tally the car because her from her champagne HFH

dimensions you know it sounds like people trying to build an industry of this your part of the effort can you talk about

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CSI II know the history of export

on the fish is a all that Mike Shaw perfume shop for fishing will tell you

it’s a pretty Dangerous account that you can t control

business concept on the other hand when Im gone

I’m going to talk about is what I am doing and out the domestic mall

market about Miss fish number one wholesale

goldfish hear uh have very little value of a domestic market

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must be processed and when I say processed meaning need to be turning

returning to value added products need to be sustainable meaning

that’s the fisherman need to make a good living for them to go out there

Sean with Santa stables market of course I would a stable market

everything is good is not that easy so you have to start somewhere

and a stable market efficient market is definitely the key

solution to the problem what distance is poison from it when you say you can’t control the market

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Texas table market what what does that mean when you can control the export more

market you know when you make a shipment out number 1800 the the

the big booty work the Chinese I know that

love the fish but they don’t pay much money in that the fact and not enough to pay the fish

fisherman to be able to get gear and Bowden going up there and spend the money that

that need to be spent a gas station make a good leaving a job

understand that the fisherman all the key to the spa commercial fish

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fisherman absolutely and I truly believe tour my troubled Indian so many different state

state because let’s face it there in call box from you guys always down 2

to the Louisiana and almost the Gulf of Mexico sub uses AA really need you that

do that that is a nationwide issues in the fisherman commercial

commercial fishery here and an open order last scene bilberry few

if you out there active and I hate it and it says this be madness

diminishing and you have to sell mouse have a concept to bring some new blood

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blood on board to get this thing going on you you have come to Illinois

other states you met with a chef’s to deliver this message to David Karp is is good eating

how do chefs respond when you come at me that you mention yourself is a big ugly fish

well no I never said it’s a big fish videos

ugly ugly invasive fish in your arms around me and it don’t come easy

ugly fish okay okay I pray that I never called ugly OK

okay to people respond when you’re bringing your number one on the chef

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chefs they are and I am one of them across many lines no more involved in food

football food marketing but I have so many years in a human being

been to a really busy kitchen in a restaurant

the chef LBZ and I bought a fish that to me

too many ships in your engine died in trouble been made fun places

what does the question of the same tube

to Bonnie and is too difficult to work to time consuming so

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understanding this is very difficult to have the whole fish

itself marketable to the chef business of the restaurant business

and that’s a fact so it would be ended up being alone

a little bit of activity where few chefs in Chicagoland area

the dinner special when teething what the buck stop that

simply because it’s too time consuming 22 really work with

the hand that Sean said it this fish is absolutely

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The Incredibles delicious and have some very good

value so for human consumption when you when you look at the fish

NNU understand that 80 percent 25 percent of what we eat is empty

imported from China Vietnam from China and the fish

future we receive let’s face it in everybody knows that is not a belfie

the company nated with blue tint in excess of positive that need to be said

beset on the other hand we have a fish you that is extremely good ok and femme

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simply because it’s been classified as a non visits pieces

ok and and that’s also affect people afraid they think that

that’s okay it’s it’s it’s you know its trash fish nn

and I would never called is fish a Glee that fish look like a fish

fish interview with a girl who played on happy feet Wings

things all four eyes always don’t have any Blu ray deleted scene

ugly fish believe me but that to me look like pretty much is salmon with

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maybe this president of the eye is going down to build a mouth but besides that it’s a very

very beautiful and you said you know it is a marketing problem here and you have not

you have not for the Citizen carpe you have a different name for this waltz Aaliyah

Sean sette years ago and silver fan well that I’m the one who came up with the Philippines

name something that was the first uh things that need to be done

the first priority is to Ave name is busy

it’s been done before for all the fish the pumping Houston

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do space one Spencers know is the Chilean Sea Bass and sense that got Market

market at UNC bass mean look on the menu everywhere I go

when you started the market at 45 dollars to pounds

talking about 20 to 25 dollar pound um so

does working and end up things in people’s mind if they refill that to another

another does the name of the new income panties Asian

is there a mine and shut the f*** up im talking

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Tamara preparation to Jim Kirby from its connected to hear some f***** clinic

Illinois Department of resources said you’re creating a a big multi million dollar

fishery industry around Asian carp is dangerous what do you make them

think that it’s complicated issue of there was a pain

the paper that my group came out with just a year ago so fat

is the prefix to kid modeling to show that

how hard you fish these these fish for sale in Illinois River

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the reproductive rate is so cuddly hi there pretty resilience to a lot of fish

fishing and effect to completely eradicate since you’ve got to work really hard at it

and I think to see a public defender Stan that they’re going to probably be

how to be here to stay how much were going to do about it other than the fact that we can reduce their numbers

first to the point where the ecosystem rebound probably last date of fishes

is breathing room and I’ll keep them control to the point where may be there

maybe they will have the capacity of streams much tour Chicago Wheatley think is the water coming

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coming down for Chicago nothing to say bad about Chicago but they don’t like it

the only reason why the movie upstream is because I’m looking for more breeding

because they’re so crowded down street so we can get the fishing industry to really kick in

chicken and them in the southern part of your heart River have an impact on them

I’m not saying they were going to have the Menace come out Grace’s table fishing

I don’t worry about that never been official has been

captain’s table of but I think you’re going to still get biomass out of these fish

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fish don’t forget its not just Illinois River there everywhere in the Mississippi River

River early Ohio rivers in Missouri River the spreading of girls on Lake

Lakes of reservoirs of people use for recreation and the

populations are extremely on variable they say when your to have a back your classes

pastel freeze alot of babies next year millions of about their

so I got a plan is up we created fisheries

associate with a lot of other fish so on this one seems like it’s probably a pretty logic

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1 to the creators well you don’t you don’t you insert a minute I’m reading writing to the disruptor

Frances Bean credit central stat you know companies others may want to create an ongoing

going industry on Redland trying to get rid of it interviewing is invasive species are trying to create

greatest rihanna is you set a sustainable industry that’s not a concern I don’t think so I think it’s time

I think it’s sort of thing words from its a 10 hair appointment

does there and get a resource that for whatever reason we don’t necessarily

curly like what we have to do something about it and quit Frank leave a lot of invasive species

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species have some values to them um answer the the issue is the slope

how do we make use of that I rather than to say after having my gosh to do about it

Jimmy question from the gym by email

the bald eagles have returned in large numbers along the Illinois River North fm

chill a coffee I’m sorry for what does the Eagle eat the Asian carp

is that a reason for the return of the bird that region do you know that umm that won’t turn Southside

how fat is probably the reason Eagles returns because they were knocked out by

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Perris, we use in the 60s 70s every person and firemen are finally starting

starting line the point where the bald eagles reproductive rate is high after taking rebel

other spreading throughout the US in back of throat accessory for Friday

Friday reasons that the issues yes the fish and all yeah definitely

Asian carp we find in a lot of different as a bird

a species that eats fish Asian carp are a part of the diet now

um as well as a to fish is so yeah I mean not can I link that is easy

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the increase in a bald eagle find out more data and b***

correlation is okay we’re talking with Jim Garvey of a chance

research pressure Department Southern Illinois University with chef Lee paper roll A

Madonna Baton Rouge Louisiana about Asian carp for the problem and one of the potential solutions

this is in place already what is fishing the fish

heavily in a potential employer ID number is 800 222

2945 fiber that email there at the wilderness talk at Illinois

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u.edu and chef parola send email hear from Achilles as a couple places

places here in this area in Champaign Urbana amazingly good catfish sandwiches Farm cafe she says is

what is a dirty fish he says it sounds like Asian carp in make even better sandwiches

absolutely anybody won that that

I want to work with this fish is in a can of flu

lose the quantities fishy superior and Sean say that to me

Tumi repair it s like Krabby America

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very clean a very beautiful color and uh OHS its

you can be so creative with this version making so many different dishes

and I try very hard to get the ships on board what do to get this market going

going in that sweetie? Here is to be able

be able to have the product that is suitable for the restaurant industry

and the US consumers and how you doing a bunch of bones and other things how do you do it well

well that’s what I’ve been working and we we we found live all all business and marketing plan

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plan a few months ago literally YouTube

mature enough for 24 year to do this but I take some innovative

technology um definitely

some food science involve and it says was not that easy again

again no by removing the bones and crew

and creatine Beach Belle United products from this fish that fish body fish cake

fishbowl at the there so many different recipes I can be applied to it

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and having this product cater to the American consumers and cleaning

putting the restaurant industry the caver the cruise liners in and men’s salon

who own on the silver thing brand name absolutely

weeded old is marketing testing we we we achieve all that we made for the station to the

into the largest food distributor here who wants to be exclusive on the product

sexually so we have done all work Ewing we ready to go

again this fish holder need to be understood the special domestically

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Stickley have very little value simply because it’s so difficult to work and you must have

must be going you must be going to a processing mechanisim

bad will take the fish in the bones out and create a product

and that’s not easy okay so did you think of it being and you know restaurants things like that

is processing ua vs see a day with a specially service in restaurant

2 hardened do the bones well with a boner

question yeah no no very very going to happen

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the process in which year

but I know it will be a very little

activity for up the good work but not enough to really

really making them back and agree with Jim Garvey when you said that the fish are everywhere

well that’s for sure once again we have a big problem

hello yes I am and 2 did acacia

NBC shagri was Jay McGuiness going to happen but the control

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population of of the Asian cop where ate the limited

the threat of the nation Cup toward native species all them

system of fact that can be done and to do that

that is to add a consistent stable market and eggs

angry wish on again with guys to work 7 days a week

5 days a week I don’t want to be 7 days a week 5 days a week and bases with H

who is a base price that they are compatible with then

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then it’s a go there is no doubt about 25 billion dollars to build

build dams are on the Great Lakes we are thinking about 10 million dollar average

pretty close to it a 10 million dollar food processing plant the fish place

processing plant of food processing plant the process fish now I know

I know that the atom and I know that buy DVDs

Fish Market fish but again Fish Market on limited

they only can sell these fish whole food processing is like food science

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science and away it’s very difficult to achieve you have to be extremely knowledgeable and you have to have

how to have it is well so to make fish

Craigslist work you got to have yet to create the demand  with

with a product of a product that is sustainable that will cover all the cost

meeting and I say that  as a priority

including paying the fisherman the right amount of money interesting apps

Neptune number types of dishes made out of the dog

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dog people are waiting for literally and end with a of all of the fish

the skin and bones and and the actually yeah you know about

there’s a group at 165 Jamaica 3 will taking the whole fish tank cycle Macon

Omega 3 that silly because of processing to do that is expensive

pensive very expensive in text I’m the building of the fish in the flesh

the face on the old is a rhombus can we could definitely work with this girl

this group to ship old is king in the ad for them to extract

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AOL and and make it a big puffy because you don’t have to tube

who run this fish so long to extract oil into beast

mechanics of the use of options other religions

back to you in a little bit run time what is ongoing on other fish is going to be here to stay

beer stay for awhile what could be done to improve the population of the native fish so they can

can the better compete with these car primer things can be done to in around the Riverbend

the river to prove that that have to get a lost her way in some ways by date

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partition carp invasion Illinois River still has problems

crazy altered primarily due to

is a lot of fun losses in with a pharmacy a good job with self conservation

ration we still design of a lot of swell down Illinois River Valley

Elite hull truth and other industries and that’s causing loss

los is a cripple backwater Aires Airport for fish in water fell for example

and influencing tire productivity the Illinois River as well as other

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problems with other rivers that we have um head so if we don’t pay attention to the

the watershed level scale issues that are affecting our fish

are fish and other populations of organisms that are out there

purpose of the equation for stuffing have the same problems we had 20 years ago

dealing with and so it begins

we need to focus on bus the carpet vanish you have a negative

competitive sex with a need to be up on Penn Station water pollution

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Nation lack of a variance of half

aspects of the river enters the to shape and size S word

so I know that I’ll be seized not in the conversation right now that needs to be put back into the

Asian man so much more holistic approach sounds like to be looking at the Riverside

River system as a whole note is trying to take off one problems time is it happens come up and wait for the next from neuron

Verizon easy restoration part of the deal Rivers jewelry and yellow

has a long long history of being a Wonderful commercial fishery used to be full of freshwater

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freshwater mussels um they’re not there anymore because even for much

sedimentation as a different religion was 100 years ago

really nice to see it come back to that paper Illinois and 3G

should say that the question can i buy email from Leupold Leupold thank you for that? Have to leave it there

is there a gym Garvey little teen from SI unit for the 2012 report phishing down the big head

big head and silver carp to join us today by phone chef Felipe Pirela on shuffle enterprise

Enterprise in Baton Rouge Louisiana join us from there by phone fra is going to be in

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in this area East Peoria for the flying fish festival in both fishing tournament

that’s in July so you want to see him and take Parts Somerset going to try to catch the other fish

will be in on July 12 of this year thank you for joining us focus

Lindsey moon Jason Crawford Texas director Ryan Weber is our intern Scott County

virgin Meadows this is focus on WILL