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we use personality test to figure out which career is best suited for

which job applicant a higher which person to ask on a date how to have a laugh online

online finding out which Harry Potter character bios how well do personality

how to work what is a really measurement how to be checked in for accuracy

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imagine dragons focus on talking University of Illinois psychology professor

French Roberts science popularity in limits personality test

real world human resources manager

which personality test cheetah pants on and why

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should really recognize when I catch IM my producer Lindsey moon to the quiz she

is Lady Sybil Crawley the most likely to end up at a political rally try and help

help with server do a better job are scandaleyes her sisters by wearing pants to a party

party so now you know something new about both of us but there are a lot of places

is of that type 0 just for fun however real personality testing

is serious business with a lot of carrots pension creating a test

North alot writing on the result when your test today Sedition a focus we welcome you

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questions about personality testing and your experiences with it is well

email last will dash talkin Illinois dot edu later in the program

programmable talk about the science behind personality testing with University of Illinois

psychology professor Brent Roberts right now what’s a good looking help personality testing

testing is used in the real world for instance by an employer the International Society

Society of Arboriculture serves the tree care industry from its main offices in Champaign

champagne where it has a staff of more than 40 according to the website Cindy Harris

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Paris is the societies human resources manager and cheese with us today and focused

talk about how personality testing is used in the workplace city welcome to focus

focus thank you very much and um I was just wondering and mom

um um am i right thinking that influence just looking for certain things

personality test for certain questions if you need answers for

um this particular personality tests work is the

fantasy how this individual Mike file into the total composition of the workforce ok

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okay so there so it’s been so its so to specific information

you don’t need to like everything about a person acceptance really have a holiday

how did they do at work that is correct looking at what

what may be there natural abilities were and down to take a quote from Kim Collins

trying to put the first fight at the right person on the right seat on the bus

is is this the test that you do like doing the job interview process is a day is done later

later in the later in someone’s employment as well I do I do it during the day

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interviewing process it’s an interactive a segment of DNA

the interview about 20 minutes okay it’s so if you can play a role in the end

the weather not a person get tired it is one of many factors

. I really have to wait on the behavioral based interview

promises bad that I have more likely Ave of your car

behavior can be more for reflection of your future behavior at the debate the

the true colors profile kind of gives me a compass

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SI where I might want to ask for the appropriate competencies for the position

ok the true true colors at the name of the big ticket to type of test that you use that’s correct

why did you choose off of all the ones that are available why do you want to

what is a what is your employer use the true colors test actually true

true colors was selected prior to my rifle rich as a human Reaper

source professional finding an organization that I just at the value

are you about the individuals at and cumming together to get things done I was pretty

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pretty impressed Beckham true colors II vs quite a few Obama

Myers Briggs the desk and I love them in a classroom setting

acting and disgusting facts had been very successful Indiana

being able to find them at and there’s something about the simplicity of the true colors

colors model that that I’ll give you the ability to actually

Reata pride in the workplace etiquette Sesay a common language

how to use when where I’m trying to improve communication office of Catholic

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how long does it take to get to do I take the true colors test

its like I said I do it within 20 minutes with interactive

there’s a card sort which tends to be kind of fun and sulfur does candle wax

don’t let the the fine for you it is research based at as valid and reliable

reliable tool but then and then there’s 5 simple work Westerners

and and and you have your hair color profile OKC

is a card sort Sol a persimmon look at a variety of cards of some type

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we we start looking at the in a dress and what they might indicate about a Acer

Acer up at color in the spectrum and then there is that language

back descriptors um and I get the opportunity and then they kind of a

life in order most like them to like them okay so the person taking the test

Tesla search describing himself through the test correct

does is testing tell you what sort of what responsibilities a person may be good with so what’s the price

the person they work best with a definitely is key indicator

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Decatur’s into um there’s some folks there very action oriented

stakers fat fat orange in a profile and a bruising

using oranges tend to be very creative a make sure you also got your gold collar

which tends to be the structure and organization of skills that you know

Asian with need an and then Greenville dental X & Y

sand and soil getting a group of people that can perform the duties and

responsible for socialization groups ok does everybody get to know them

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no the results of the test absolutely absolutely is it ok if an

if I ask you about how you did oh na na na

assessment and up so I am a combination of orange and blue

blue and with an association if you came and you would see puzzle pieces out

outside of everybody’s at office cubicle that that is a visual

display of their colors everybody knows everybody that bad

because that sound and once again when you come up and put someone

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someone and I know that there gold in nature are primary colors

some clothes so so so it sounds like you love it does

employees generally find is testing helpful and helps him understand

Nazism cells but the other coworkers is well that that’s fit the valley of the tool

tool override buy the whole concert

people are complex and and that’s that’s some

that’s the next part of it is is how far you can take this texting app

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people are complex this is a very simple model II

IAIA use a couple and allergies one of them being the GPS vs

versus the compass  okay this is more of a compass juicing

this is the compass and it if you really want to Holiday Inn on somebody’s press

preferences ok do you

do you re test employees after a few years are is the first test of the only test

um we have not implemented Airy testing also we do

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do do a refresher training and then periodically the entire

half a workshop and sew a half a workshop at does getting place

the opportunity to be tested there there’s um I wanted to

2.3 reactions within the spectrum okay so maybe a little shift

shift overtime flight shifting bad side

this be if they’re really focusing on there in 8

tendencies things that you’re more last born with vs learned

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um you’re going to see that it’s hump what’s in there

nature and I like to compare writing it with your dominant hand

hand vs your non dominant hand okay okay

it’s pretty natural to write with your dominant hand which would be more

more beer your personality traits how ever I am I can switch hands in overtime

what im get pretty good  okay so in the same

same thing with with things with in your nature okay so you can

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can you can you can you can learn new patterns of doing things absolutely

ifile Perry low INR spectrum and the golden one of the best compliments I get my work places

is there gold

common language what year was okay how about no

I fink you said earlier that you’ve you print from your own experience you think this test

really works better is more useful in the workplace in some of the other

some of the other personality test I’ve never

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never seen it so easily adapt it and in right to the UK

you can actually apply it up like I said I’m I’m a big proponent of the Myers

Briggs exist you get 3 months out after taking the test and its really only a ham

cancel the people from my experience that can remember with her profile is

okay to fire what is this kid but in this case it sits

it’s pretty clear to everybody there’s something about the color spectrum

and then encouraging people to become more versatile in the spectrum

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bactrim with their interactions with other fact that you can definitely apply

okay what’s up sounds like you’re saying that this is this is this is a useful test

test for ranging people in the workplace as long as you know what the limits of the tests are

star  exactly um you do not want to label

Abel people because people are complex okay well

well City Harrison wanted to thank you very much for taking the time to talk to us

about to about a person at now the testing works in your workplace and again

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Cindy Harris is the human resources manager at the International Society of abhor

abhor culture in Champaign send a thank you again for talking with us your very welcome

this is focus on a wyll mg medicine with talking

talking about personality testing and how it works and why

why its used in what the sciences behind if I want to turn out to itemize

my second guessed here on the program and he has to deal with all those questions is a professor

psychology at the University of Illinois Dr Brent Roberts I was actually

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this program several years ago with the talking to David and about the science

sofía personality in glad to have you back on the program again love you back

okay you heard that description of off of personality

personality testing and I take it there for just in the workplace

place where are the other tests after do they work on Seminole wind

signs are there different approaches to one coming up with the use of personality tests

the test for for work versus many preciosas there are scientists expect in the industry

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three individuals use the so um this test is one that

representative of the tester typically used in industry nice tested Texas

takes the most of the negative qualities that people possess in doesn’t the system

this is what you might think of his people strength and emphasize is the strength you may have

mn dot can be used for a positive way for people to like those

city was doing it in a workplace which is nicer and it sounds like you know if especially

specialty going to be showing results posting post post a posting some of them on

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on your office store probably talking about the perceived negative traits

is not where you want to go to know I suspect not I wonder 2010

the the posting of something like a color or label with the cheese the same Possible naked

will make a consequence if you did not like somebody’s an orange for example I’m not kellita some problems

specs on a very curious to know how that would affect the people of long run I have no no idea of NYS

Benny’s study of everything done to do that but I feel so hurt a very coming in this industry for people

people that used to like the color Tustin BTI for people for example of coming to a meeting and end

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and confess their personality type of the beginning in order to help communication or two

do I get a fight with a heart of people get to get people to quick social starting point Vicente

how to protect ya and NW there then becomes how much information you’re actually communicating

getting out accurate is and how much that should be relied on and I think the danger in in terms of

of typing this way is that you can Oversoul information of being given

okay well I’m wondering just going back how long have

have a psychologist been working with Ceasar structured personality

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analogy test as compared to just saw the 11 questioning that somebody might have

having a session with a psychologist back to the beginning of the 20th century so

start of something before World War 2 inspired apart by the

the products of World War 1 was psychologist reply to try to select the soldiers

Alexa Vega perform better in a field and from that time on you had a along

long and energetic history of trying to figure out how to assess psychological qualities weather

weather baby psychopathology something like location to restore normal personality when is a swimming

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when is the State start moving in the places we’ll movie the places were saying psychologist may not be handy

Andy I like the workplace or something else that’s been going on for

long time so I go back to the 1960’s even really

NBT I was first created alien BTIS Myers

myers-briggs Type Indicator which is the most widely used in industry okay and I was telling

and I was I was the telling print before the programming on the ride the tide

light in my workplace back in the 90’s I took the Myers Briggs test I don’t remember

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how I scored a little late but up but it but it was certainly was it was

it was interesting in revealing it somewhere to time how we feeling

do you think a Myers Briggs test score is about a person  what

Lumi for sale sympathetic to bed something like a four categories

system is hard to remember the Menace probably watch do something simple Myers Briggs

4 categories and so got it I thought about the actual remembering here

hear your qualities and having something very simple strawberry good um and then turns off

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terms of the question of what something like the myers-briggs would get you

I know that it’s going to get you some of your personality traits it’s going to provide

provide some feedback in terms of where you stand

the scientific issue for release from my perspective in from the field perspective is

not the questions per se Marina content a mans b*** the tendency to them

put people into categories which is refined is pilot

pilot problematic because people as City Center complex they dont they dont actually I’m fit

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categories BTI oversold idea that people are in types and up

that these types don’t change and that’s a problem for Minnesota perspective

because most people on a continuum and the most of the most people in the middle of the continuum

that’s right way to put the dividing line for an extrovert and introvert or an orange or blue

and that’s a problem from a scientific perspective in for my information

mission perspective because you might make a decision based on being of extrovert

can you just barely left work and more next word in some situations

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Asians in others the inevitable you very well I c** on strangers as compared with people

youpor closely with stars things like that yes and no in the sense that

fat people very Network respect but most of the personality inventories actually have that is part of the car

how to contact a man so somebody is would be considered high in a conversion if they were comfortable

Apple meeting with strangers and having a conversation with them if you are uncomfortable doing up in the tester

designer touch without tune for you more the middle of the Ranger law okay talking about

what personality testing and if you have any questions for a love for up for breakfast

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Roberts are if you have any experiences with personality test yourself you’d like to see

like to share give us a call at 1 800 22 29455

2802 22 wyll my email is Will dash

talk at Illinois a.edu when you cannot Richardson Twitter

where are Facebook at focus 580 and

you know this goes back to a to a larger question personality tests measure person

personality and then have to figure out exactly what personality is or what

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what personality is for the purposes of what your testing for  um

give me that serve sage in odd which means like yes it’s a big field

what is a big clit big things in terms of what he was talking about

the color test in test like that you talking specifically about personality traits which are ARW

are one component of personality why was the way we think about it we also think more bra

more Broadway in terms of individual differences and when you think more broadly you have to include

things like somebody’s abilities send somebody xentris for tampons affect your interested in going to end

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feels like radio is separate from weather your country or not

Adrian and useful but both of us will to South because they can give you a lot of information

until the personality test is used in industry almost solely focused on personality

naughty traits and the limits of the begin with and then you know even if it’s safe you want to go to

go to in to a field I guess there is there going to be a variety of different jobs in that field at one

might be subject to a personality type is well um

what a candy store can personality testing weather Institute of tech

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testing our say the old the ones that say psychologists use with patients

can you give us full knowledge of everything about the personality or is that just not pop

possible what is one thing that I try to remind me every body who uses

uses personality test Lisa’s the weather structured is that they’re not

not really what were interested in for interested in somebody’s personality like to argue that if I want to

understand your personality I’m going to put on a camera on your shoulder

horror put a team of people together to follow you which is frightening

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reality TV show exactly volley for 2 years in an ounce

tears but hope to see you in critical situation so if I want to know what your urine

you’re anxious individual Roddick I’m going to want to see you in situations where you feel uncertain

are you feel stressed if you don’t have the experience is over that those tears I died I wouldnt want to make it have to be

Houston to that type of dimension but maybe Outasight I don’t need to know that much are just don’t have to you

2 years that’s why we use self report personality inventories is because for the most part we don’t have to

how 2 years at but but you have to keep in mind that these are facsimiles RR

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is RR RR stand ins for what were really interested in Denver Facebook

bursitis in elbow for the individual use the main industry are Ardsley public

which Downton Abbey character you are the disses just one way to get out and it says its off

approximation the surprise ending of course is how well the proclamation works

what is not the Platonic ideal for searching for a question line 4

94 St Charles from champagne good morning urine focus

thank you I’m about 40 years ago and I

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psychology personality psychology course search Siri off

personality Corso  we studied the various

individual to raise your mouth lyrics and tall and

I wonder if you today cause I don’t hear you talking about

about any does Barry Siri say is that still considered important

does PLL theories think im replaced by

other ways of looking of personality Prince

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Prince what happened to all those personality theories of the died

fortunately their ideas died with a times for the most part the clock

the classic series the of fried Young Adler MassWildlife

are not widely used within the field personality psychology give up on the

upon the the big bran cereal in part because of series like fries are some

are sometimes untestable in and part because many the ideas were wrong

why doesn’t stop somebody’s ideas friends for being very influential so Maslow theory for samples

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Apple store in industry despite the fact that most psychologists and specially personality

personality psychologist don’t necessarily believe there’s any evidence to support his hierarchy of needs

needs are some facts remember that from college friends f***

but I’m wondering are there any new series 2 of come along are you know is

is there any Siri isn’t there any 3 I’m outta the most people now

how are studying mid series in terms of the the purchaser taking my mid theory mean

not Grand so if you want to stand with somebody develops RR weather personalities

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what is consistent with changeable you go to a developmental theory that describes the the mechanism to process

processes that are available with we have found the utility of things like

is like after series are are young stairs to be I’m really not good

I’m at this point and so then BTI for example is based on Young’s dairy which makes the argument that people flip

flip flop between personality types over the life course we don’t see the oven for that

so we divorce Ultimo title ideas because they haven’t been useful in terms of understanding

is there still a hope of finding a grand theory of personality York

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Dr people just thinking that is not really useful are even more even desirable

the Arizona hope some of my friends are there other alternatives that we needed

we need to consider how old is attachment theory is one that soften soul is another option

option evolutionary thinking is now actually I’m getting some track evolutionary thinking is

so the distance in terms of how the human species is created to revolution

evolution and how it would guide who are the creation of individual differences in why they would exist

I’m so why would we have a domain search of consciousness in humans

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what purpose would serve how would it still take something like survival and reproduction evolutionary

people are starting to think there providing grander theories that most people during the last

last 20 to 30 or something so stay tuned sounds like me answer this point

Charles I want to thank you very much for coming in today apartments anda

let’s go ahead and take a short break right now I’ll be back with more about the science of personnel

personality testing Hiiraan focus on wyll

you listening to an encore broadcast of a previous focus program im Jim meadows

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what’s in my gas today is a French Roberts is a professor of psychology at the University of Illinois

Illinois what talking about personality testing early we heard from Cindy Harris who are you

do I use is some of the real world personality test does shiza NH

NHR manager at the International Society of Arboriculture here in Champaign

describe how she used a 1 personality cast test be a true colors

colors test I have a caller who was wondering if this is something that tells me you don’t have a spa

specific answer for what personality tests ups uses for the

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the drivers but I would they be was wondering if there’s a larger sense of do you know how to

how to company like UPS would use personality testing you know either particular job

jobs were you looking for particular things ain and in some cases Industries of gun co2

Great Lakes to try to figure out of more efficient and valid way of selecting individuals

describing how she use the colors test of carbon 12

to the interview process systematic interview to select people I’m one of our car

how far from complaints are grapes on the other end of the spectrum is that many organizations

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Asians don’t use a good valid way off of assessing the qualities that they want

they want in their employees personality testing is one possible way of doing that many of the trees do it

do it into their benefit in summer specs on the back in the late 90’s I was where

does wherefore companies for target in other big retail operations using personality tests to

decrease employee theft how much was actually a much bigger problem for the men’s French people

people coming into stealing things in their capable of reducing the number of employees a higher that would

wood and up taking off of stocks of clothing for example NFL Pomona bottom line

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wine and that was done through what you think about that the typical approach in Indus

Industrial Psychology where you go when you do a job analysis figure out what’s required on the job and then what

what kind of qualities rap beats with predict whether somebody be a good employee

what type of approach to personality test of any sort typically what is comprehensive that would measure with

what we think of the Big Five would get you information that would be valuable let me go

let me let me I catch up on that the big 5 of personality

throw it in the one major finding within the field personality traits of the last 30 years

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30 years that we have a working tax on a me off of domains service like a working theory

personality of some sort of theory would be giving it to much credit

working model find pizza blindly empirical

miracle of finding weed Factor analyze the adjectives in the dictionary

most of the major languages across the globe and arrived at the fact that there so there are 5 made

major domains are still having quibbles an argument over whether its 5 or 6 or 7

we do feel pretty confident after 5 in another extraversion horribilis conscientiousness

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emotional stability and openness to experience and then you might go on a sliding scale

kaylani to those how much or how little you and for the most part any personal

personality test that you take will cover some of those domains usually impar

impart band that did you can’t escape the remains of summer specs

any question you ask somebody a princess to figure out what character they aren does Nabi

beyond our star wars will never be somewhere in the domain of a big 5 the color test

testing BTI the disc test of the Enneagram old is Jesse find online

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why the old tap the same domain the possible not organized the same way but they actually gay

actually give you set the the same information just repackage suspect I’m wondering

when we talk about all those different types of tests I think a lot of them I used mostly

mostly like in job interviews with what other categories will you find personality test

testing being used in I was thinking French did someone someone trying to figure out

what’s the weather going to go into what college you know what to major in in college does personality test

the test to get used there what does the good go to a different domain

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personality so we will you try to focus on what we call vocational interest instead of personality

Detroit location Winchester different race because they reflect kind of what you desire

what you want to spend your time doing and that’s a different than what you typically do so pretty

personality traits 10 to a factor in the things that you do

automatically and not you don’t really think about um interest inventories on the other hand

can have to do with what you would like to do so are you interested in tinkering with mechanical objects would you like to work with

work with people not a different bank is it still a measure personality are not um I would

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argue that the measure personality because I like to keep the field broad inclusive

Lucifer of most of the major domains of individual differences exist important for

for not only Society for the way people function what you want to do is incredibly important thing

thinking probably a much better thing for determining whether you should be in a certain major or with you should

are you should be in a certain job or not numb your personality traits made in effect with your successful

will there about if you’re not interested in working with cars are not interested in being engineer

engineer might not really matter what your country or not or extrovert

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andar en are there hole range of brands of tests for for for

44 thats a fuse is well with your angel them and they been

they been in existence possibly of long for longer than personality trait measures 90 if you talk to vocational

psychologist educational psychologist Jim Brown’s next one here and stuff

experts typically in the domain and for some reason I get clean from our field long time ago but really

what really does belong together can another one another a type of testing that occurred mean

dating services weather dating websites are other social dating services were there

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there’s a personality tests in and maybe a test what’s the person you’re looking for

how does tests work those times I actually do focus

almost exclusively on personality traits which is someone fortunate because there’s no

there’s not a lot of evidence of the name of the scientific literature that we match up on

map on personality traits with our spouses how do we measure um well I think they go to college

propinquity market forces are pink with his big word to me what does that mean midgets having the next

the next to somebody is attracted to you you find people in your school

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find people in your workplace 35 people community in your church and they just happen to be there

what happened to the qualities that you want and what we do know the personality traits

important in the qualities of people want everybody wants somebody who’s smart funny

nice and responsible for most universal that’s the forsworn funny 9

nice responsible does the top 10 that you can make a nice long list of the ordered a quite

white road quite reliably about everybody wants a certain type of person in there and they’re made

I’m very little evidence that with you match up or not has

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really any incremental benefit to you so if you happen to be disagree

is it good to have to disable together verse is a nice person and not not a nice person

we don’t have a lot of evidence that the Big Bang ok these are the tests that are

what are administered by 9 psychologists I guess a relatively quickly are there any other field

Fields where of where there’s enough of the man for personality test

there’s a hole range of marketers trying to bring personality test in tooth

listen to business are industrial don’t see that happening

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how often can but I may be in terms of n in psychological counseling

self esteem personality testing there used to be a very popular thing to do within the clinical death

domain is probably going to c** more important as time goes on because the new

Diagnostic and Statistical Manual for clinical psychologist just came out of the DSM vs m5

part of that they have a dimensional system very similar to the big 5 examples

testo that’s being used and it might be there in the future these types of approaches

is World War Z running songs of the the clinical field camera

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Radisson to do what we think of as as forecasting for somebody psychology used to be

used to be the case that you’re going to bring a person and give them tests like that and that end in PI to Minnesota

Multi personality inventory which is dedicated to something psychopathology exclusively

who supplies and then using a towel or weather somebody’s gonna be a successful person or not

not or to diagnose them that fell out of favor for a long time to come back

come back but the issues themselves are very problem in the minds of the clinical psychologist when you know that moves us right

right into a question found in from Sarah who wants to know what is personality

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how the disorder and are these personality tests used to diagnose

the test that we started talking about like the the disc test

the color test or not intended to psychopathology

personality disorders of a subcategory of a clinical worlds think of it

psychopathology units is assumed to be like a personality trait but it’s going to be something

something that’s pathological narcissism for example what is an example of a personality

narcissistic personality disorder borderline personality disorder test at that

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that actually tap these try to measure would a test like a test for the gender for the workplace even

even see no service orders only indirectly so we do know for example that person out

the normal personality traits of a quotation surround that are strongly related

related to what clinician study of neurotic system which is the domain of a friend

feeling depressed and anxious and an uncertain is strongly related to all of the personality

words that we say Lowcountry unload a realist are some of the

are some of the best predictors what we think of is externalizing disorder so antisocial personality disorder

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disorder and psychopathology for example I’m so there’s a lot of overlap more than

I suspect people might be comfortable with you would you be able to diagnose stop by with a color to snow

are you going to get some of that information yeah little bit but not the end

in my mind Worth diagnosing somebody so it would be a more involved

personality test maybe of the times you said it just did you just said so

set a falling out of favor that you might use to try to find a tranny

how to diagnose a personality disorder or are you saying that now psychologist

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just go with no one on one conversation with a patient treatment

lottery ticket stub more of you bring people in use s were there at a menu design

directions to help him out um so you don’t usually use personality testing

asian girlfriend utility that wouldn’t be use for could be

clinicians do continue to use does test but that that’s not quite as popular as

is there a fear of Ms diagnosis with with with a general te stats

that’s the same test for every person I think you probably have to ask conditions I think there’s a sense of Utah

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futility when it comes to the interface with the reimbursement systems right now what what

what what does the  the insurance agent want to see

remind me to work without as opposed the weather going to find you swallow a test and I’m wondering

the ring of 44 oz for conditions which psychiatry

Hyatt wrists would use medications to treat a yeast in Port St schizophrenia

frania are diagnosis of bipolar disorder is that something that a personality test

test are you know what would be able to even odd even the

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what are the details psychological personality tests would be able to defeat look at

no in the winter the Tuscany crib for

sites like this or for the industry don’t have that well enough to be able to diagnose somebody

Dr to be used to construct a boy and a Tesla psychologist use to use and don’t use as much for the

for the patients with a be looking for an existing Stan and improved on M&P

M&P iforgot.apple limit create another test to get it things like personality disorders

borders but those are used by clinicians and the clinical field and they

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they are just not as widely used to work for the 19 fifties and sixties OK

interesting cuz I think a lot of people’s images of what a psychologist does

map in step by Ste models of the movies movies on TV from the 1950s and 60s

things I don’t know if they change that much over the years um uh

especially if someone’s watching something sent back that people watching us an episode of Mad Men

fantasy psychologist there a scene that still using those techniques

and that may be the model of what they think is going on now possibly

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thinking about the TV shows of psychologist that might be better Bionic review

psychologist that look like skinny

psychologist using of course it’s like I’m just coming many many different forms of energy

psychologist have many different approaches to the price all them questions

so you can get people are very concrete Leo rented looking at behaviors and thoughts I think I

girl talking about her selection system mercy behavioral based interview in writing

write a clinical approach would be like that 2 called talking to be able to pee your sister have psychoanalytic

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people which is more like that  the things you see Mad Men

psychology related your mother and father when you’re young so they still coming over

Fridays by their tongues to be watching waiting on those the reason and how they are playing today

what you know I’m wondering um  women going bad

going back to the personality tests and jests some of those basic test if you’re talking

talking about for the workplace are for dating service career counseling up how to

how are the questions designed are they are the DeSoto questions where a person is

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is consciously describing something about themselves is a understand themselves are they trying

trying to find a way in which people may be more something more reef revealing of themselves

self that really knowing the other really nice question

would argue that most personality test not develop without much for thought

typically we want to get at certain domains and dimensions and then the person who is offering the test will have

have a variety of approach is some of them are very simplistic so I buy wood categorize the

question approaches in the three three domains when is straightforward

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somebody that you asked them are you an expert are you talking about you but there’s an does te

does types of questions to be the most valid then there’s the subtle approach what use to be

used to be a tradition with personality assessment that was the drive from just like in a PI

why were you ask someone to have interesting inseminated questions like I prefer showers

hours to bad and then you look at the answers to see what people would say in MN figure out with

what are correlated with anything you’re interested in use that that’s a very fit a fun way

fun way to do things because it tends to make the test mysterious for individuals taking it in the ass

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shower sure and Rancho what movie review let you have something

Holiday what does the two dominant ways of doing things with some questions like that

cat to not be as useful as well then is ingenious questions

so I think in particular some of my friends working at the domain of attachment for simple

example like to assess the dimension of avoidance with somebody likes to avoid relationships

not very good asking when person are you in person

yes I don’t answer the question what yo straightforward questions are indirect where they say

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Sao people shouldn’t be trusted right and then one person say of course

course you should trust people think something about themselves for saying something

something about people that are actually meeting in some respects and directly to

to the quality of a psychologist restaurant assess to what degree do people try to cheat

how to cheat on personality test in present themselves is someone that they think the test

the tester wanted to see how are you a controversial stance on

dance on that I’m almost always thunderstruck by how honest people

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people are people want to tell you who they are even in what we think of as high stakes

stakes testing situations applying for a job and I’m trying to get into any organization

what that uses some type of pre screening test it is really surprised me how

how honest people are good when you look at the stuff the scores are elevated

I’m so there is some books a fledgling of the of the dimensions

what we see are the answers to the questions but it is very uncommon to find people true

truly faking Amanda wave saying this is who I should be based on

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dawn what this person wants it what is really hard so if you have to go to an interview

dancer 150 questions and fake it takes a lot of c*** ever to do

how to do some people default to install a specially is what we call f******

I’m so you might put your best foot forward so to speak

this thing that you know you are completely and utterly disorganized moderately disorganized

and not a thing as much more common we are talking about personality testing with friends

Fred Roberts professor of psychology of the University of Illinois email address will dash

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dash talkin Illinois TTU let’s go to a caller on line

94 and that’s Davidson Terre Haute good morning urine focus

good morning how to call about the speaker setup opinion

of a please understand me that you’re sick Bates

to be a simplified Myers Briggs test if it’s no problem

experience with benefits rich workshop on it

terms of the differences of people in heaven simply revelation about the book

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and I wonder what its current weight is the profession

please understand me character and temperament types by David Jersey in Maryland Bates

Wikipedia listing what is what do you think the book print

ally have a book so I can’t I can’t come in a book Amanda I’ll I’ll use that

used as an indicator of what we think about it the scientific field most practicing

missing psychologist who are doing science don’t use the NBT I already buried

very intimate Bandon or do they endorse the approach that typically done

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under qualified up a little bit when it comes to the domains that are satisfied

Best Buy the NBT on the color test we would not disputed does existing people in NFL test can get

can get up those dimensions reasonably well where we

you start getting into trouble with the sinuses how does tester used

used especially that the act of categorizing people into types and diet

that’s where we really part ways because we know that that’s not the way you miss work

thinking in in a utility perspective like a wastin Dr Seuss story about it first

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it useful to know in what direction you’re going the the real question

from my perspective comes to how are you going to use that information again if you suddenly get cat

how to write an extrovert you’re just a little bit over the midpoint of extraversion and you make it

make a consequence of decision for your life based on the information that to me is a problem

that’s the way to tie should not be used and then there’s a tendency in an industry

mystery to tell extraordinarily compelling stories about how

the dimensions relate to a lot of different outcomes and I don’t see a lot of empirical evidence for the cleansing

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Armada fair a lot of pretty nu uh easy

repackaging what you said next for therefore you’re going to like to be with people that’s what you told

told personal inventory but a lot of times they tend to extrapolate pretty

pretty widely assuming that for temple understanding who you are going to make you happier in the workplace are better worker

worker more motivated and I don’t see any of the support

ok yes much David thank you very much for college

calling and I we have another collar off from Urbana I think you may have a good morning

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focus? Myers Briggs have a quick one thing I learned

um in lean workout after weed Myers Briggs Type S sound

what are the ways spot that extrovert

where is better people then more interesting for people and

what was very useful about the after sex

ascension was that talk about extroverts being people who recharged with other people

people got their energy back and introverts prefer to be

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how to recharge by themselves with a much more helpful way to think about

thinkin bout those two personality aspects fact that you can change

mixtures and pure gas have pointed out

thanks thank you and that is something something its lesson

what’s the value judgement in that case on extroverts and introverts um

more than 10 just more for the scripture and is an accurate description of

talking about those basic types of doctors

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Corsican being a construction the day that comes up is weather

weather not is the value of a person but Weatherford for dental society Value City

write think its it’s undeniable the cause of the Western in a special American society values

extroverts over introverts and the probably very little basis for that turns off

terms of the Imperial courts write a deductive you find  im the

empirical database related to extraversion extroverts for example of an suffer more car

car accidents because their respective distracted I’m so there’s negative consequences to be an extrovert girl

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are there also a positive consequences for cymbalta to be a happier than other people

and that’s been one of those reliable finding that we get fat as a scientist I see that type of finance

anime sympathetic to the argument that you want to have equal value to the different dimensions but its very hard knock

NACA seaside saying well I like a rich Moore I’m in there for valium and

by the way this finding a text to be happier than a bird im it and you may not like

like that I may not like that but its empirical fact I have to Russell it bad if you look across

personality is never be the case that you find positive and negative attributes are qualities

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associated with high low and feet one but some of them have a lot more power

more positive things associated with high end automotive there not a lot of really good

good things that happen to you if your impulses an irresponsible and disorganized

Camelot negative things happen to the flip side of your very conscientious you turn to live longer

longer have better physical health a better positive social relationships in do better work

work directions to defend step back and say well

we have to exercise the positive qualities about that motivational thing comes out of hell

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MBT eyes typically used which is as a tool to validate and make employees

what you feel better and not respecting BTI the color test of my car broke down because they

does that taken out all the negative qualities that we typically assessing the scientific wrong person

personality and that raises the question is that useful in the work

the workplace Isaias use for the test or is that deceptive and perhaps

perhaps counterproductive far is a little about depending

what you sow is it for the real goal of industries to make employees feel good by getting into

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ti like that works perfectly how about making the more productive by putting them in

jobs are suited for a completely different question and end in there in that situation you may not fine

find information on something like that useful to you and thinking terms of development

developmental angle you what you want to do to maximize your human capital on your employer

workforce sometimes no situations you may want to know what the negative quotes

qualities are so that you can actually help people to work on them where to create a work place that

is that doesn’t punish them for what’s a negative qualities that that’s not a problem

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which is better time one question that occurs to be spread your taking a personality test

I have actually have you mean baby try the different brands of them

I dye it looked over some of the ones that are we talking about today and and there a lot of fun

did they did you come out the same way in all of them umm lets see no

no no but because that they try to create systems are in copper bowls of respect

and some cases of course on the green I’m on the on the color test

that’s not my surprising better than the other test if you have a different dimension

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translate what are useful information came out of this test um

the think some of my friends and family might argue that I could use that information

omentum ibenefitcenter there’s a suspected I find anything surprising know

I did not okay what we’ve been talking about personality testing in about personality

with Professor Brett Roberts Easley social personality organizations in the social personality

personality organizational division of the Department of Psychology at the University of Illinois

Illinois thanks for joining us on focus more pleasure than me Jim meadows

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