The 21st—Monday, May 4, 2020

As the weather warms and Illinois begins another week under stay-at-home orders, defiance is beginning to rise. Meanwhile, major COVID-19 outbreaks continue at nursing home and large manufacturing facilities. We talk to reporters around the state for the latest on COVID-19.

Plus, we hear from an expert on the Illinois Constitution about legal challenges to the governor’s stay-at-home orders, talk to a southern Illinois business owner about the challenges she's faced while shut down, and hear from a central Illinois health department official about COVID-19 in more sparsely populated areas.

And a new show from FX puts Phyllis Schlafly and Illinois political history at the center. We talk more about what’s fact and what’s fiction in the series.